WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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Jun 16, 09, 04:10PM
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rustyironchains: I'm from Canada. 
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OxbridgeResearchers Member Joined: May 2, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 943
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Jun 16, 09, 04:32PM
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rustyironchains: Ukrainian boogeyman I am quaking! rustyironchains: I'm from Canada. Of course you are rustyironchains: I'll have to guess-- unemployed. how else would they have so much time to waste? of course - 10-20 minutes a day, not everyday, on the forum ... helluva lot of time! So, who are you??
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 16, 09, 04:34PM
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I put that there to mess with you and make you paranoid. it worked instantly. I'm basically here just to flame you for being pathetic, complain about essaywriters, and look for new job leads.
speaking of jobs, my original question... do you work for any of these places, or just whine on and on about them?
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 16, 09, 04:37PM
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as to who I am, I'm just a hack like the rest of you, but I'm not too proud of it.
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WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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Jun 16, 09, 05:18PM
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rustyironchains = one more in a long line of truly useless members
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 16, 09, 05:45PM
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I'll take that as a sort of taoist compliment. and yet, my question remains unanswered...
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WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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| Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 16, 09, 06:07PM
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rustyironchains: and yet, my question remains unanswered... Use the search function before making ignorant accusations. It's not our responsibility to repeat, at your whim, what we have each already posted in this forum multiple times.
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EW_writer Member Joined: Jul 2, 07 Topics: 17 Posts: 1368
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Jun 16, 09, 07:14PM
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WritersBeware: rustyironchains = one more in a long line of truly useless members For the WB, a rare specimen of living fart, any opposition is accused of uselessness. It cannot take criticisms and will spew out rabid yet ineffectual rebuttals when faced by them. Let us continue to observe this wonder of nature (as in, we wonder why nature ever made it happen) here, in the Writer's Geographic.
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siteowner Member Joined: Jun 16, 09 Topics: 1 Posts: 7
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Jun 16, 09, 07:30PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: why is such a high percentage of the scammers in this industry from the Ukraine? Now I have my own theory - they went from the "Russian bride scam" to the "Essay business scam". You can read about their Russian dating/bride scams all over the net, I'm sure some of them moved to the writing business too. I know on such dating sites they would post fake pictures of women and they would correspond with men who thought they corresponded with real women etc. THey would steal pictrues of women too, just like they now steal custom graphics from legitimate websites. Probably the best solution so far would be to block all IPs from Ukraine.
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WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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| Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 16, 09, 07:38PM
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The stalking and harassment by EW_writer, agent of Ukrainian EssayWriters.net, continues . . . .
Siteowner, I commend you for taking a stand. Do not let any henchmen intimidate you into backing off. I wish you luck in seeking the justice that you and others deserve.
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EW_writer Member Joined: Jul 2, 07 Topics: 17 Posts: 1368
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Jun 17, 09, 04:16AM
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WritersBeware: Siteowner, I commend you for taking a stand. Do not let any henchmen intimidate you into backing off. I wish you luck in seeking the justice that you and others deserve. Err.. siteowner, nice to meet you. I hope you don't have any ill feelings against me as I certainly have none against you. I am employed by essaywriters.net and they do pay me on time. I've written thousands of papers for them already and consider myself one of their best writers. Does this make us enemies? I like to think that it doesn't but please correct me if I'm wrong. WritersBeware: Siteowner, I commend you for taking a stand. Do not let any henchmen intimidate you into backing off. I wish you luck in seeking the justice that you and others deserve. When threatened, the WB will immediately seek the support of any entity that it believes would come to its aid. More often than not, beings that plague this sorry product of happenstance primate mating do so out of disgust for the creature's despicable demeanor and have no interest in engaging other entities in conflict. - EW_writer, Writer's Geographic Correspondent

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WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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| Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 17, 09, 04:37AM
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The stalking and harassment by EW_writer, agent of Ukrainian EssayWriters.net, continues . . . .Siteowner, rest assured, I don't need any friends to support me. I can take care of myself quite easily. Anyone who does support me does so because I stand for truth, honesty, writer/consumer rights, and legal business practices. Plus, I post evidence to support EVERY claim that I make. EW_writer is an admitted agent of the fraudsters from Ukraine. He is the one who needs "friends" to aid in his propaganda campaign against me. He is trying to "make nice" with you for that very reason. He has openly admitted that his only purpose in this forum is to harass and personally attack me. His goal is to get me to fold and stop posting damaging, verifiable evidence of fraud against his Ukrainian employers. Ask any legitimate member to name the fellow member who has the longest track record of posting only truth, facts, and verifiable evidence. I'm confident that they'll all give you the same answer: "WB."

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muntazir212 Member Joined: Feb 1, 08 Topics: 3 Posts: 18
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Jun 18, 09, 12:57AM
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AR is a good site to work for. I have worked alot for them. They are quite professionals; very harsh with fines though.
Sometimes these fines are genuine, while pathetic sometimes.
For example: - they once fined me for uploading the paper late and when I emailed them the evidence, they apologized and removed the fine - they have several times fined me for inappropriate formatting and lack of intext citation, without any evidence and do not reply to any claims or queries - Angelina once told me that she is doing a favor by re-considering the fine - they do not consider what the writer has to say - the customer comes first always - if the customer complaints, the assignment is gone for you and you are fined for it for sure
be ware of these things; otherwise, it is a good site to work for...
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 19, 09, 11:06AM
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I agree with muntazir. I think we should be clear on their fines, though-- these are not excessive fines, in my experience: just a couple of dollars here and there. certainly not like some of their competition, who fine you the entire amount of the paper, twice, just for kicks.
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 19, 09, 09:10PM
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the real hard-asses in terms of fines, in my experience, are at essaywriters.net.
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EW_writer Member Joined: Jul 2, 07 Topics: 17 Posts: 1368
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Jun 19, 09, 11:43PM
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rustyironchains: the real hard-asses in terms of fines, in my experience, are at essaywriters.net. Amen.
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 20, 09, 09:04AM
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check this out: this is from essaywriters.net.
"Topic: The American social/economic sytem is set up against minorities, esecially Black Americans Files: 1 Messages: 24 Research Paper May 28 2009 20:26 Order is refunded Feedbacks: 0 67.50 $-80.5 not paid"
notice the (-$80.50): that's how much I'm being fined. what you can't see from this snippet is, that this was originally a $50 paper, which I got a $17 bonus on. then, out of the blue, essaywriters.net told me that the paper was plagiarized, so the customer was refunded. I'm still not sure why the fine exceeds the original value of the paper by about thirty bucks.
I checked their turnitin report, and all of the "plagiarism" was in-text citations! it was all in quotation marks... ?!?!
anyway, my one consolation is that, since I've quit, they'll never get this outrageous fine. I could kick myself for giving them a second chance.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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| Edited by: dearbats Jun 20, 09, 09:57AM
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rustyironchains: I checked their turnitin report, and all of the "plagiarism" was in-text citations! it was all in quotation marks... ?!?! But only a certain percentage of intext citation is allowed.....any more than that is considered as plagiarism. Initially they warn you and ask you to reduce the citations, after which they begin to fine you, I guess.
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 20, 09, 10:56AM
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nice try, but it's indefensible, imho.
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EW_writer Member Joined: Jul 2, 07 Topics: 17 Posts: 1368
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Jun 20, 09, 12:30PM
¦ #180
rustyironchains: notice the (-$80.50): that's how much I'm being fined. what you can't see from this snippet is, that this was originally a $50 paper, which I got a $17 bonus on. then, out of the blue, essaywriters.net told me that the paper was plagiarized, so the customer was refunded. I'm still not sure why the fine exceeds the original value of the paper by about thirty bucks. Err.. I can tell you. >.< They fined you for plagiarism and for the entire worth of the paper. I have to agree with dearbats regarding the quotations being considered as plagiarism though. However, ew did most likely screw you up coz I sincerely doubt that they refunded the client since the client didn't complain (right?). dearbats: Initially they warn you and ask you to reduce the citations, after which they begin to fine you, I guess. I don't think so. If the plagiarism detector got it, the fine was automatic. Happens to me when I work on editing orders if the client plagiarized the paper that I had to edit. However in these cases, I was always able to reason my way out of the fine (since fining me for the client's fault when all I was supposed to do was correct the client's Engrish is too unfair, even for them).

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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 20, 09, 01:33PM
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EW_writer: I don't think so. If the plagiarism detector got it, the fine was automatic. Haven't really had any such experience so far, since, RWC notifies writers and sets the order for revision in case plagiarism is detected. So does one other company I work for. Many a times, like EW mentioned, editing orders can have instances of plagiarism. I really appreciate the policy of RWC according to which papers are thoroughly scanned and set for revision so that the writer can revise it if plagiarism has been detected. That is a positive and humane approach which ensures that good writers stick around cos they consider themselves to be a part of the company.
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 20, 09, 01:40PM
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what is RWC?
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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| Edited by: dearbats Jun 20, 09, 02:15PM
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rustyironchains: what is RWC? Well, recommendations are strictly not allowed. All I can say is that it is a writing company with an excellent approach, humane and practical.
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 20, 09, 03:12PM
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don't be scared. tell me in pig-latin, or indirectly let it slip, or something.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 20, 09, 03:15PM
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I'm not scared.........I already told you (RWC) but you didn't seem to catch it.
Anyway, its Researchwritingcenter.com.
Go ahead, enjoy :)
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rustyironchains Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 543
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Jun 20, 09, 03:56PM
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thanks.
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undertow2 Member Joined: Jun 15, 09 Topics: 5 Posts: 108
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Jun 20, 09, 05:50PM
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dearbats: humane and practical. Explain.
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EW_writer Member Joined: Jul 2, 07 Topics: 17 Posts: 1368
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Jun 20, 09, 07:41PM
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rustyironchains: don't be scared. tell me in pig-latin, or indirectly let it slip, or something. Hahaha! ^_^
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 20, 09, 11:00PM
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Your welcome, I could sense you neeeded it real bad :) Wish u Luck.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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| Edited by: dearbats Jun 20, 09, 11:13PM
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Humane, cos the company treats its writers courteously and understands that writers are human, can make mistakes and should be given a fair chance. Writers are not treated like machines by imposing automated fines on them. Practical, cos the company owners understand that it is in UNITY that they will flourish, which is why they have sensible policies in place, to attract and retain good writers. Payments are bang on time and fines (to my knowledge) are never imposed automatically.
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