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May 28, 10, 10:12PM
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I pursued the matter with them ardently for a week. I spoke specifically to Angelina whom I had communicated with earlier also. I called regularly to explain the case. After all it was my money at stake. I must admit that the communication from their side was not bad. Angelina saw through the whole matter and made sure that even though the account is deactivated my dues would be paid. They have assured me that I will get my payment in their next cycle i.e the 10th of June though they did not specify what amount would be credited exactly of my total earnings. In any case, so far so good. let us see which side of the reputation they live up to...
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| variegatedscribbler |
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May 28, 10, 10:13PM
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Which brings me to the principle question as to which is the most non corrupt site providing this opportunity to writers, if at all there is any?
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| WRT |
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May 29, 10, 02:58AM
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variegatedscribbler: Which brings me to the principle question as to which is the most non corrupt site providing this opportunity to writers, if at all there is any?
The legitimate ones tend to have stringent writer recruitment policies in place and before even considering an applicant, demand proof of academic qualifications, etc. They pay well, pay on time and hence, expect the best ...
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| variegatedscribbler |
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May 29, 10, 12:51PM
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Can you give some examples WRT? I would always wonder the same. I have completed my Masters in Science, however I was never asked to reproduce any certificates. People may then claim to be gurus of anything!
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| WRT |
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May 29, 10, 03:24PM
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variegatedscribbler: I have completed my Masters in Science, however I was never asked to reproduce any certificates. People may then claim to be gurus of anything!
Exactly! That's why the quality-oriented companies require scanned copies of the applicant's academic certificate and ID. Unfortunately, given the number of fake certificates and ID's which many of us receive, independent verification is often necessary.
Supposing that the applicant passes the screening process and is signed on, s/he has to bear the following in mind:
1) plagiarism: the legits have a one-strike policy, plagiarise once and you are out for good. There are no second chances, ever.
2) punctuality: submit on time. If, for any valid reason, you feel that you may not be able to meet the stipulated deadline, send admin an advance notice. Sudden freak storms, data drive crashes, etc ... don't wash.
3) quality: unless you are a top level writer with the company, your work will be thoroughly checked before it is sent to the customer. Failure to submit quality work could result in immediate termination.
In short, legits appreciate honest, quality-oriented writers and pay them well. They are, however, completely intolerant of wannabes. Writing is a real job and has to be approached professionally. Unfortunately, many assume it is a quick way to earn some money - it's not and never will be.
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| variegatedscribbler |
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May 31, 10, 05:45AM
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& some of the legits are...? :)
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| WRT |
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May 31, 10, 06:20AM
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variegatedscribbler: & some of the legits are...? :)
Not allowed :)
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Jun 1, 10, 12:10PM
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WRT: Exactly! That's why the quality-oriented companies require scanned copies of the applicant's academic certificate and ID. Unfortunately, given the number of fake certificates and ID's which many of us receive, independent verification is often necessary. Supposing that the applicant passes the screening process and is signed on, s/he has to bear the following in mind: 1) plagiarism: the legits have a one-strike policy, plagiarise once and you are out for good. There are no second chances, ever.
This goblin is eating his own head. By spitting at these competent companies, you have done nothing great. Rather you have redirected thousands of writers competent ESL writers to them.
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| WritersBeware |
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Jun 1, 10, 12:11PM
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IGNORE
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| Fracturegang |
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Jun 2, 10, 12:12AM
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This goddamn loser's only defense is to ignore me.
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Jun 2, 10, 01:08AM
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God has nothing to do with it. The cold, hard fact is that you aren't worth the keystrokes, sub-human cave-dweller.
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Oct 5, 10, 04:36AM
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academia-research is fining me $196 for an 8 percent similarity to a paper posted online. is this fair? i recently completed and sent in a 98-dollar order, but according to them, the type of plagiarism involved in this case (8%) is the type that cannot be detected by plagiarism detection software, but can be noticed by teachers and university professors. what i would really like to know is if the customer sent in a complaint from his instructor or professor that there was indeed plagiarism in the paper
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Oct 5, 10, 05:00AM
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I work for a company whose fining structure is the stuff of legends, but I have never known people getting fined for less than 15% plagiarism. However I hope you did not spin an article and tried to pass it off as the one requested by the customer because that is unforgivable and in any case, pulling such stunts prevents the paper from flowing logically. Otherwise if I were you (and I am not), I would take cue from that and run as far as I can. Yes, quit while you are ahead before they hold your entire salary on the pretext of 'investigating.'
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Oct 5, 10, 07:41AM
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michael, my advice is to try arguing it. if I may ask, which administrator is fining you? don't worry about "naming names--" I think they are mostly fake.
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| michael8888 |
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Oct 12, 10, 12:07PM
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they've gone ahead and applied the fine, as well as some other smaller fines. now instead of getting paid $257, i get $24. just horrible.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 12, 10, 02:07PM
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michael8888: they've gone ahead and applied the fine, as well as some other smaller fines. now instead of getting paid $257, i get $24. just horrible.
This is the Ukrainian company that RustyWriter claims is not fraudulent. Right.
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Dec 24, 10, 09:08PM
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Academia-Research.com sucks! Does anyone know where a hard-working, highly-skilled writer can still get a fair shake online?
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 25, 10, 06:09PM
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One of my freelancers reports that Academia-Research, at least on the writing side of the equation, isn't too bad. They apply fines, but not TOTALLY unreasonably, though fines themselves are highly dishonest and I never use them. Their claims about "premium writers" and their rationales for denying jobs are silly: They'll claim a premium writer took a paper but the paper will be available. They've paid him for two weeks worth of work - fingers crossed as to whether or not he'll get paid again.
On the client side of the equation? He's taken some jobs from other writers, which were not terribly written but did have many serious grammatical problems and no understanding of the basics of the topic. Essentially, you get what you pay for, and when customers ask for $5-8 per page, they risk getting poorly written assignments.
michael8888: academia-research is fining me $196 for an 8 percent similarity to a paper posted online. is this fair? i recently completed and sent in a 98-dollar order, but according to them, the type of plagiarism involved in this case (8%) is the type that cannot be detected by plagiarism detection software, but can be noticed by teachers and university professors. what i would really like to know is if the customer sent in a complaint from his instructor or professor that there was indeed plagiarism in the paper
This is crap. Academia Research DOES try things like this. It is unacceptable. Stop taking work from them and publically note that you have done so to the customers.
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| rupysk |
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Dec 26, 10, 10:23AM
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YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT VALERY
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 26, 10, 12:12PM
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rupysk: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT VALERY
Rupysk: From what my freelancer has told me, I am not entirely convinced that any of these people are independently real. Sometimes, "Susan" will forget things that "Susan" has said. I'd imagine there might be two or three people cycling the names randomly.
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Dec 26, 10, 12:16PM
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AmonsEssays: Rupysk: From what my freelancer has told me, I am not entirely convinced that any of these people are independently real. Sometimes, "Susan" will forget things that "Susan" has said. I'd imagine there might be two or three people cycling the names randomly.
ALL of the names that they use are fake. They are ALL Ukrainians. This is a well-known fact.
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 26, 10, 12:21PM
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WritersBeware: ALL of the names that they use are fake. They are ALL Ukrainians. This is a well-known fact.
No, I am aware of that, I don't care about that. What I'm saying is that there's not even as many NAMES, fake or not, as they claim. I would guess there are two or three Ukrainians on the support end who just cycle through about ten different names. The only one I've seen have a consistent behavior pattern and identity is Victoria.
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| WRT |
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Dec 26, 10, 01:16PM
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Victoria Gatehouse - yes, and we all know what her real name is.
As for Alexei Vitchenko (the owner) - Alex Wesson is not his only admin name.
Alexei - you had a couple of good admin on staff. You abused them and they gave you up ... regular tell-all. You know who I'm talking about.
Hey - aren't you going to sic Rusty on us or don't you want to provoke us into exposing the whole setup?
Again - stu4, the joke was really on you. If only you knew who you were siding with :) But, I'll give you this - you are not as bad as Alexei :) you are awful but not as bad.
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 26, 10, 01:21PM
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WRT: Victoria Gatehouse - yes, and we all know what her real name is. As for Alexei Vitchenko (the owner) - Alex Wesson is not his only admin name. Alexei - you had a couple of good admin on staff. You abused them and they gave you up ... regular tell-all. You know who I'm talking about. Hey - aren't you going to sic Rusty on us or don't you want to provoke us into exposing the whole setup? Again - stu4, the joke was really on you. If only you knew who you were siding with :) But, I'll give you this - you are not as bad as Alexei :) you are awful but not as bad.
Really? Because judging by search results alone, AR, while certainly having a bad rep, isn't EW.net. AR paid at least one two-week period for my freelancer, so that's not too bad. They could easily have just not paid at all, apparently like some companies...
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| WRT |
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Edited by: WRT Dec 26, 10, 02:07PM
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I thought the same, especially as I had first-hand experience with AR. Then, a certain someone provoked very deep digging for legal purposes. The whole outfit is built on lies, lies and more lies. It is a house of cards.
Don't get me wrong. I am not defending EW - they are BAD! They are, however, just a little more honest about the extent of their dishonesty than is AR.
You know about the FAMOUS fight between them, don't you? Alexei and Yuri used to be partners ...
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Dec 26, 10, 05:07PM
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WRT: I thought the same, especially as I had first-hand experience with AR. Then, a certain someone provoked very deep digging for legal purposes. The whole outfit is built on lies, lies and more lies. It is a house of cards. Don't get me wrong. I am not defending EW - they are BAD! They are, however, just a little more honest about the extent of their dishonesty than is AR. You know about the FAMOUS fight between them, don't you? Alexei and Yuri used to be partners ...
Oh, no, I am perfectly aware that the debate isn't "Which is good?" but "Which is marginally better?"
Fair enough.
AR doesn't seem to reply to any of this stuff here. At least EW.net has shills defending them. (Except for Rusty, who managed to screw up doing so).
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| WRT |
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Dec 26, 10, 05:53PM
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AR has its shills :) rusty was one of them, as are a couple of others.
Want me to talk, Alexei?
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 27, 10, 12:11AM
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My freelancer has just informed me that it seems like AR has begun to set up the ability to not pay him. Despite numerous positive reviews that I can anonymize, his last review by AR itself was not positive, and clients informed him that they were not even aware about the positive feedback system. Does anyone know if AR has a pattern where they begin to arbitrarily deliver poor reviews?
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