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Sep 17, 09, 05:22PM
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Calm down Uber genius, the man has a point to make, you may receive a backhanded bit of wisdom from his post.
Truthfully, it is possible that you have a narrow grouping of clients to work with that absolutely praise your body of work.
Best Wishes.
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Sep 17, 09, 05:25PM
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boom8088: I didn't say "scammed". I said "screwed".
Hey so let me get this straight. Were you paid every dollar that you were owed? So by "screwed" what precisely are you complaining about?
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Edited by: boom8088 Sep 17, 09, 08:33PM
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Hi EW_writer,
Why so serious? Have the years of doing battle in this forum affected you? Lighten up a bit.
By "screwed", I was referring to my story. My gripe is both personal and moral; and since my values differ from yours, I don't think there is any point in "butting heads" over this. Besides, butting heads hurts. Ow!
And.. yes, they still owe me. I'm not holding my breath, dear.
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Sep 17, 09, 11:09PM
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EW_writer: WritersBeware: After all, EW_writer has stated on numerous occasions that EssayWriters.net only mistreats and defrauds plagiarizers and unqualified writers.That's a lie. I did however claim that the people who come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it.
LOL! What's your justification for making such a claim (besides personal, monetary gain), over and over again? Any proof?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 17, 09, 11:12PM
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rustyironchains: back to the order of business! someone find the newbie WB scared away.
You're a clueless troublemaker. I'm the one who helped boom, and she has openly stated such. The one who is attacking her is your buddy, EW_writer.
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Sep 18, 09, 01:20AM
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WritersBeware: LOL! What's your justification for making such a claim (besides personal, monetary gain), over and over again? Any proof?
ROFLMAO! How many times have you criticized the writing abilities of those who came here claiming to have been fired/fined by essaywriters.net? :p You're actually all the proof I need.
boom8088: Why so serious? Have the years of doing battle in this forum affected you? Lighten up a bit.
Like I said, I'm sorry if my reaction towards your hypocrisy offended you in any way. I really do not have any interest in exchanging subtle insults with you (really) and hope that you can understand that I just had to say what I had to say. ^_^
boom8088: My gripe is both personal and moral; and since my values differ from yours,
Darn.. there goes your hypocrisy again. >.< But hey, I'm fine with it now. Still, are the values that you are talking about the same ones that made you say that perhaps us homework writers should think about establishing a union? ^_^
boom8088: By "screwed", I was referring to my story.
That's the thing. Based on what you've revealed so far, it seems that the worst things that ew's done to you were delay your payments and not believe your story about your child. Honestly, is this it? You say they still owe you money. Do you mean payments that have yet to be paid but are scheduled for payment?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 18, 09, 01:25AM
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EW_writer: ROFLMAO! How many times have you criticized the writing abilities of those who came here claiming to have been fired/fined by essaywriters.net? :p You're actually all the proof I need.
To my knowledge, once, and that was only a few days ago because the guy is a completely dimwit. The fact that EssayWriters.net hired him in the first place is the real issue.
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Sep 18, 09, 01:46AM
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WritersBeware: To my knowledge, once, and that was only a few days ago because the guy is a completely dimwit.
LOL! You must have a very poor memory then. :D Why don't you share with us what you think about yogeshmittal's English writing skills again? :) Here's a sample from your previous posts.
WritersBeware: However, should yogeshmittal market himself as a "professional, native English-speaking writer"? No.
Who's yogeshmittal? :P Haha.. the thread starter that rusty said you scared away. Where in this forum did you criticize his English writing skills after he complained about getting fined by ew? On the first page of this very thread! :D
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Sep 18, 09, 02:55AM
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EW_writer: Who's yogeshmittal? :P Haha.. the thread starter that rusty said you scared away. Where in this forum did you criticize his English writing skills after he complained about getting fined by ew? On the first page of this very thread! :D
Um, what's your point, exactly? That I fairly critique people, regardless if they are employed by EssayWriters.net? You're right, I do. Good job.
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Sep 18, 09, 07:40AM
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WritersBeware: Um, what's your point, exactly? That I fairly critique people, regardless if they are employed by EssayWriters.net?
Wow.. you really are thick when it comes to logical argumentation. >.<
I said:
I did however claim that the people who come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it.
Then you asked:
WritersBeware: LOL! What's your justification for making such a claim (besides personal, monetary gain), over and over again? Any proof?
To which I responded:
EW_writer: ROFLMAO! How many times have you criticized the writing abilities of those who came here claiming to have been fired/fined by essaywriters.net? :p You're actually all the proof I need.
and then you tried to rebut by stating that:
WritersBeware: To my knowledge, once, and that was only a few days ago because the guy is a completely dimwit.
Does everything make sense now, or do I have to explain how I humiliated you all over again? :)
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Sep 18, 09, 02:29PM
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EW_writer: Does everything make sense now, or do I have to explain how I humiliated you all over again? :)
Ah, now I get what you are trying to prove. (It's difficult for me to relate to your deceptive mindset.) I fairly and lightly critique one person who came here to complain about EssayWriters.net, and you think that that proves your baseless claim that "the [dozens] of people who [have] come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it." Um, no.
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Sep 18, 09, 05:39PM
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WritersBeware: I fairly and lightly critique one person who came here to complain about EssayWriters.net, and you think that that proves your baseless claim that "the [dozens] of people who [have] come here crying over getting booted/fined by ew usually deserved it." Um, no.
Not at all. I'm saying that it's silly for you to try to counter my argument when your actions actually show that you agree with me. And hey let's not lose count (why do you keep forgetting things?), within the past week you criticized all the writers who have come to this message board compalining about getting fined/fired by ew. This is contrary to your feeble rebuttal that you remember doing so only once in your lifetime. :p I'm sure that if I put some more effort in to find the threads of other posters in previous months who have come here compalining about getting fined/fired by ew I'd see you right there criticizing them but hey, why bother? The incidents with yoge and that other guy prove just about the same thing.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 18, 09, 05:55PM
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So, are you claiming that I've bashed EW victims more than supported them? Are you also claiming that the number of wrongfully abused, QUALIFIED writers is insignificant?
EW_writer: Not at all. I'm saying that it's silly for you to try to counter my argument when your actions actually show that you agree with me.
Again, you fail to see the bigger picture here. Regarding the UNQUALIFIED writers who come here to complain about abuse at the hands of EssayWriters.net, Yuri has absolutely no business* hiring them in the first place! Get it?
* Well, his business is actually predicated on such hiring practices.
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Sep 18, 09, 06:07PM
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WritersBeware: So, are you claiming that I've bashed EW victims more than supported them?
Darn, you're thick. It's not about whether or not you've "bashed EW victims more than supported them" but that by bashing many of those who come here claiming "I are got fined" or "I is fired, ew is a scamming," you're proving my point that in general, those who come here complaining about getting booted/fined by ew deserved it.
I gotta go now so I won't be able to 'splain this to you again. Here's wishing your ol' noggin' the the best. ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 18, 09, 06:37PM
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You're hilarious.
EW_writer: Darn, you're thick.
EW_writer: my point that in general, those who come here complaining about getting booted/fined by ew deserved it.
WritersBeware: Again, you fail to see the bigger picture here. Regarding the UNQUALIFIED writers who come here to complain about abuse at the hands of EssayWriters.net, Yuri has absolutely no business* hiring them in the first place! Get it?
Hmmm, I wonder why you intentionally ignored the other part of my post.
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Sep 19, 09, 08:10AM
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WritersBeware: Hmmm, I wonder why you intentionally ignored the other part of my post.
Because it's irrelevant to my argument that people who come here complaining about getting fired/excessively fined by ew usually deserve it... duh.. :D
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Sep 19, 09, 11:27AM
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To EW_writer,
Dear, thank you for your inputs. I really appreciate them. Your wisdom is truly amazing. ^_^ (I'm sorry. I forgot that that "symbolic smile" was patented to you... Ha-ha-ha)
As far as payment goes, dear... I was talking about money I will never get from EW. They sent me a message stating that they will no longer be giving me my pay because I terminated my account with them. I told you that I wasn't holding my breath (It's quite difficult holding your breath when you have asthma).
Thank you so much for your words of wisdom. I will always cherish them. ^_^ (Oops! Did it again!)
Boom
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Sep 19, 09, 02:33PM
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boom8088: As far as payment goes, dear... I was talking about money I will never get from EW. They sent me a message stating that they will no longer be giving me my pay because I terminated my account with them.
Oh, boom, come on . . . you know that you deserved it. Stop fooling yourself. EssayWriters.net would never steal money from a qualified writer, especially not one with an ill child.
Tell her like it is, EW_writer! Set her straight!
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 19, 09, 02:36PM
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EW_writer: Because it's irrelevant to my argument that people who come here complaining about getting fired/excessively fined by ew usually deserve it... duh.. :D
LOL! It's "irrelevant" that—as a calculated part of its business plan—EssayWriters.net knowingly hires unqualified writers who eventually come here to complain, and then you justify how EssayWriters.net steals money from them because they "deserve" it? Nice try.
WritersBeware: Again, you fail to see the bigger picture here. Regarding the UNQUALIFIED writers who come here to complain about abuse at the hands of EssayWriters.net, Yuri has absolutely no business* hiring them in the first place! Get it?
Fines sure do help to increase that profit margin, don't they?
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Sep 19, 09, 03:33PM
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WritersBeware: Fines sure do help to increase that profit margin, don't they?
So does not paying.
But alas, WB... I'm afraid I deserve it... Sigh! ;)
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Sep 19, 09, 03:36PM
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boom8088: But alas, WB... I'm afraid I deserve it... Sigh! ;)
Well, that'll learn ya!
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Edited by: boom8088 Sep 19, 09, 03:44PM
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WritersBeware: Well, that'll learn ya!
Hey! I'm learning to use this "quote" thing! Cool! ;)
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Edited by: EW_writer Sep 19, 09, 07:19PM
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boom8088: They sent me a message stating that they will no longer be giving me my pay because I terminated my account with them.
I see. I actually wasn't aware that writers who terminate their accounts don't get paid anymore. Thanks for the tip though. >.< Were you aware of it at the time that you terminated yours? Hey rusty, did you terminate your account when you quit ew? Were you left unpaid any amount aside from the fines that you received?
boom8088: Thank you so much for your words of wisdom. I will always cherish them. ^_^
Dude again, I don't mean to offend you in my replies. I have virtually no contempt for any other poster here aside from WB. So what do you intend to do now? Quit writing homework for students entirely or attempt to get yourself hired by essaytown? Hey, please do. If you get in, tell me how you did it so that I can give it a shot as well, if only to find out if the grass truly is greener on the other side (something I'm beginning to doubt based on the posts of those claiming to be American writers on this message board). ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 19, 09, 07:24PM
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EW_writer: Dude again, I don't mean to offend you in my replies.
Bring in the cleanup crew!
EW_writer: I have virtually no contempt for any other poster here aside from WB.
Thank you.
EW_writer: Quit writing homework for students entirely or attempt to get yourself hired by essaytown? Hey, please do. If you get in, tell me how you did it so that I can give it a shot as well, if only to find out if the grass truly is greener on the other side (something I'm beginning to doubt based on the posts of those claiming to be American writers on this message board). ^_^
WritersBeware: Do you think that EW_writer would stop enabling, engaging in, and perpetuating illegal activities through and for EssayWriters.net if ET or another one of the legits were to offer him a position (i.e., give him the "opportunity" that he claims to have been denied thus far)?
So, what's your answer, EW_liar?
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Sep 19, 09, 07:28PM
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WritersBeware: OR, do you think that EW_writer would stop enabling, engaging in, and perpetuating illegal activities through EssayWriters.net if ET or another one of the legits were to offer him a position (i.e., give him the "opportunity" that he claims to have been denied thus far)?
EW_writer: Hey, please do. If you get in, tell me how you did it so that I can give it a shot as well, if only to find out if the grass truly is greener on the other side (something I'm beginning to doubt based on the posts of those claiming to be American writers on this message board). ^_^
Doesn't this imply that I would gladly try out essaytown if I was offered to do so? :P You must be sucking your egg the wrong way again or something. :)
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Sep 19, 09, 07:38PM
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boom8088: They sent me a message stating that they will no longer be giving me my pay because I terminated my account with them.
What does that even mean? What does the termination of a writer's account have to do with any company's paying the writer his/her dues? To withhold pay is a direct violation of the most basic employment/service provider contract in the UK and all across the EU. I am pretty certain that it is not legal in the US either. Considering, however, that writers simply put up with this sort of treatment, I really cannot blame EW or any other company for taking this route. Why shouldn't they deny writers their due when they are never called to account and have never had to pay the piper? Boom, I am sorry but I really do believe that you and other writers are to blame. Some of you are horrendously passive about all of this. Take a look at Rusty or E-W ... they repeatedly stated that they stood up for their rights whenever they were violated and, by doing so, rectified the situation.
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OxbridgeResearchers: I am pretty certain that it is not legal in the US either.
Correct.
OxbridgeResearchers: Boom, I am sorry but I really do believe that you and other writers are to blame. Some of you are horrendously passive about all of this. Take a look at Rusty or E-W ... they repeatedly stated that they stood up for their rights whenever they were violated and, by doing so, rectified the situation.
OR, I'm sure you know that it's strictly a numbers game for EW. How many out of every 10 of EW's ever-revolving supply of offshore, ESL writers do you think have the time, legal knowledge, resources, and wherewithal to "stand up"?
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Sep 19, 09, 07:45PM
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WB - what I really do not understand is why the writers put up with it? Some of them are ideal victims and their continued passivity keeps Mizyuk and Vitchenko very very rich, indeed.
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OxbridgeResearchers: WB - what I really do not understand is why the writers put up with it?
What are they supposed to do after being given the boot—or threatened with even more fines—after complaining? Remember, there is a huge supply of unqualified writers. For every 1 who complains, there are probably 100 others ready to unwittingly take his/her seat in the "victim's chair." If you are EW, why would you want to fill your ranks with US citizens who have the resources and knowledge to take appropriate legal action in the US?
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Sep 19, 09, 08:07PM
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WritersBeware: What are they supposed to do after being given the boot—or threatened with even more fines—after complaining?
UK law treats neither unpaid wages nor salary deductions lightly. An employer (including part time), can only deduct wages with the statutory power or agreement of the service contractor/employee or part timer. Should an employer act unilaterally and deduct wages/refuse to pay wages without the consent of the employee, the employee may 1) take the employer to the small claims court or 2) apply to an employment tribunal. Both the small claims court and the tribunal have, more often than not, found in favour of employees and ordered employers to pay up all sums owed/deducted as well as costs (and any other compensations) for unlawful and unreasonable deduction of wages or denial of fair, and agreed upon, compensation. I would imagine that the US has something similar - or laws which safeguard employers?
The point is - something can be done and it should be done. If one or two writers were to stand up to this type of unlawful behaviour, companies in this industry would think twice before engaging in such blatant and completely illegal violations of fair employment law.
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Sep 19, 09, 08:08PM
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WritersBeware: If you are EW, why would you want to fill your ranks with US citizens who have the resources and knowledge to take appropriate legal action in the US?
Scratch the above post ... you are right.
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Sep 20, 09, 07:26AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: Boom, I am sorry but I really do believe that you and other writers are to blame. Some of you are horrendously passive about all of this.
Hi OB,
I agree. Some writers are quite passive. It is usually inherent in Asians. But, I am making my move. Those guys operate in my country. I don't have to deal with them online now.
I consulted my lawyer yesterday and he told me that I have a shot at getting my money back if we can prove that EW and Uniwork are one and the same. I copied all the evidences I could from this forum (thank you to all that have provided such info) and gave them to my lawyer. I may get a recommendation from him on Tuesday.
That's about all I can share about this since I have a feeling EW monitors this forum. I mean, I would too if I was EW. There are other more damaging angles we can approach but that'll be my secret for now. I hope you guys understand.
Boom
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Edited by: boom8088 Sep 20, 09, 07:39AM
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EW_writer: Dude again, I don't mean to offend you in my replies.
Honey, I am in no way offended by your replies. I simply choose not to engage in an endless tirade of replies to try to defend my position. It is my position and that's all it is. If you think that I am being a hypocrite, then you have every right to your opinion. I will not ask you why nor will I try to defend myself. :)
By the way, I'm not a "dude"; I'm a "dudette". But that's okay. Some say that I could pass for a man. LOL!
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Sep 20, 09, 08:06AM
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boom8088: Some say that I could pass for a man. LOL!
I'm sure they don't mean it.
boom8088: I simply choose not to engage in an endless tirade of replies to try to defend my position. It is my position and that's all it is. If you think that I am being a hypocrite, then you have every right to your opinion. I will not ask you why nor will I try to defend myself. :)
Ok, we're good then. I only said you were a hypocrite because you were suggesting that homework writers form some sort of union in another thread. I hope you got where I was coming from with my comment.
boom8088: I consulted my lawyer yesterday and he told me that I have a shot at getting my money back if we can prove that EW and Uniwork are one and the same. I copied all the evidences I could from this forum (thank you to all that have provided such info) and gave them to my lawyer. I may get a recommendation from him on Tuesday.
Good luck with that, really. I agree that they do monitor this forum but do inform us once you're able to make ew pay for what you're still owed (and much more if possible). Frankly, I believe that withholding your payments just because you quit is downright crappy.
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Sep 20, 09, 08:33AM
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dude is gender neutral. I have heard girls calling each other dude. no one says "dudette."
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Sep 20, 09, 08:37AM
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to all EW agents monitoring this thread, may I recommend stealing $200 or so from some random writer's account, and treating the office staff to an impromptu vodka party? you've spent all day being obtuse and confrontational, and it's hard barely speaking English... you deserve a break.
PS-- AR agents, aren't you jealous now?
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Sep 20, 09, 08:39AM
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rustyironchains: dude is gender neutral. I have heard girls calling each other dude. no one says "dudette."
Oops! I stand corrected. :)
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Sep 20, 09, 08:44AM
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rustyironchains: dude is gender neutral. I have heard girls calling each other dude. no one says "dudette."
I think I've heard Michelangelo from the old TMNT cartoon use the term. >.<
rustyironchains: PS-- AR agents, aren't you jealous now?
You're not with them anymore? >.<
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Sep 20, 09, 09:02AM
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EW_writer: I only said you were a hypocrite because you were suggesting that homework writers form some sort of union in another thread. I hope you got where I was coming from with my comment.
Ah... Now I see your point. But, you may have misread my post. I was simply thinking out loud. It was more like question, really. I wasn't trying to make a call to action. If it came out that way, I am sorry.
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Sep 20, 09, 09:38AM
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boom8088: Ah... Now I see your point. But, you may have misread my post. I was simply thinking out loud. It was more like question, really. I wasn't trying to make a call to action. If it came out that way, I am sorry.
Ok. So you're really out of the homework writing business? If so then I take it back.
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