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AmonsEssays, like the dozens of newbies before you who thought it a good idea to sign-up just attack others (including me), you will soon find out that you made quite a bad decision.
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Edited by: AmonsEssays Dec 10, 10, 02:03PM
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AmonsEssays, like the dozens of newbies before you who thought it a good idea to sign-up just attack others (including me), you will soon find out that you made quite a bad decision.
As opposed to oldbies who decided to attack others?
I signed up to see what scams there were and to offer my criticisms. I have never mentioned anything specific about a PERSON, or even really a business, until you decided to respond to A DEBATE ABOUT EBONICS with personal attacks and threats on my business.
You're attacking someone who you have no reason to believe isn't honest, capable, judicious, etc. on a forum about BONA FIDE SCAMMERS because they disagreed with you. You attack others. No reasonable outside observer could conclude that your behavior is ANY better than mine, and indeed it is clearly quite a bit worse.
I'm not going to be threatened. I have behaved entirely according to the rules of this forum. You have decided to turn a personal vendetta into a business one. You are discrediting yourself, anyone who chooses to employ you, and this forum. I'm going to ask you one more time to back off, and I will avoid saying anything critical about you, ever, given that you are transparently incapable of taking any disagreement.
No wonder companies like EW.net are still in business: People like you are willing to waste their time turning feuds into attacks on honest businesses.
Oh, and by the way: The claim that I signed up "just" to attack others is transparently and definitionally wrong. Take this post I made.
What's worked for me and my subcontractors in a similar position (people trying to enter the industry) is to promote EVERYWHERE you can. Craigslist, BackPages... Just type in "free online classifieds", "free online advertising", etc. Start there. After that, if it's in budget start a promotion.
Just try to make sure you don't spam people. It's wrong and it's not effective.
As for working for other essay companies: This whole site is a testament to the dangers. What scares me is that many of my subcontractors report applying to other places that promise a 24 or 48 hour return time, then don't hear back from the companies after months.
No personal attacks. No insults to specific businesses. Nothing but positive support. I've looked over thousands of your posts and can't see anything remotely so helpful. Talk about the pot calling the picket fence black.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 10, 10, 02:06PM
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AmonsEssays: I'm not going to be threatened. I have behaved entirely according to the rules of this forum. You have decided to turn a personal vendetta into a business one. You are discrediting yourself, anyone who chooses to employ you, and this forum. I'm going to ask you one more time to back off, and I will avoid saying anything critical about you, ever, given that you are transparently incapable of taking any disagreement.
Stop playing the victim card. You attacked me first. I invite anyone who actually cares to review the history of this thread.
AmonsEssays: No wonder companies like EW.net are still in business: People like you are willing to waste their time turning feuds into attacks on honest businesses.
LMAO! I've done more to clean up this industry than ANYONE on the face of the planet. You don't have a clue. People who have been in the industry for more than 10 minutes, unlike you, greatly appreciate my efforts.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 10, 10, 02:08PM
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AmonsEssays: I've looked over thousands of your posts and can't see anything remotely so helpful.
1. You're a liar. You've read nothing. If you had, you'd know that you're statement is the spouting of an absolutely clueless idiot.
2. You've bitten off more than you can chew, which will soon become very apparent to you.
3. You have publicly stated that "ain't" is a "perfectly acceptable word."
4. You know nothing about the essay industry.
5. You know nothing about running a successful business.
6. You know nothing about my contributions to cleaning up the industry.
7. You make ignorant claims that you cannot prove.
8. You think that Ebonics is a legitimate language in and of itself.
I could go on and on, but I'll stop here—for now. I will give you one opportunity to shut your trap and stay out of my business.
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Edited by: AmonsEssays Dec 10, 10, 02:13PM
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Stop playing the victim card. You attacked me first. I invite anyone who actually cares to review the history of this thread.
You're kidding, right? You said something, confidently and arrogantly in a post FILLED with abuse, that was wrong. I said the ARGUMENT was problematic. Not you, not your behavior, NOTHING. This is NOT a personal attack. More importantly, you not only immediately escalated and at every step I did not further escalate, I also offered you a mutual truce. I apologize if you viewed this as an "attack": That was not my intention. But I still find it hypocritical, respectfully, for you to talk about personal attacks given this thread alone...
LMAO! I've done more to clean up this industry than ANYONE on the face of the planet. You don't have a clue. People who have been in the industry for more than 10 minutes, unlike you, greatly appreciate my efforts.
Then keep working on that. If you have time to persecute me, you have time to go after them too.
Not used to people being able to reply to your non sequiturs, ad hominems and abuse?
1. You're a liar.
2. You're an idiot.
3. You have publicly stated that "ain't" is a "perfectly acceptable word."
4. You know nothing about the essay industry.
5. You know nothing about running a successful business.
6. You know nothing about my contributions to cleaning up the industry.
7. You make ignorant claims that you cannot prove.
8. You think that Ebonics is a legitimate language in and of itself.
1. You parrot arguments that you have been beaten soundly in over and over again, without taking the time to reply to points.
2. You dishonestly take arguments out of context.
3. You are abusive.
4. You think ad hominem arguments are legitimate arguments.
5. You state opinions that cannot be supported by evidence you don't supply, while not acknowledging that there is disagreement in the fields you are citing.
6. You resurrect issues that you have dropped.
7. You double-post until you're called on it.
8. You are unhinged and show signs of severe psychiatric problems.
9. You are unprofessional.
10. You escalate personal conflicts into character assassination.
I can go on. You also have no evidence of me lying. If you did, you probably would have included it in your little character assassination blurb.
Dear GOD, is this how you treat your friends? Family? Children? Clients? This level of narcissism is already pretty bad on the Internet; I wonder if this is a release valve for your bad behavior or not. I thought that your attacks on people like EW Writer had to do with your honest belief that they were scammers and you just couldn't control your temper, justifiably so, against such people. But in this case? I've had to revise my beliefs.
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Dec 10, 10, 02:15PM
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WritersBeware: I will give you one opportunity to shut your trap and stay out of my business.
You should have seized this opportunity.
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Dec 10, 10, 02:16PM
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You should have seized this opportunity.
I'm done here. I am not going to reply to this thread any more barring you doing so. I invite you, once again, to do the same. We both have offered each other to back off and I am doing so.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 10, 10, 02:23PM
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I find it quite interesting how you seem to be obsessed with the mental condition.
AmonsEssays: This level of narcissism
This coming from the nutjob who edits the username out of every quote . . . .
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Edited by: AmonsEssays Dec 10, 10, 02:25PM
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I repeat: I am not posting to this thread anymore barring replies from WritersBeware.
This coming form the nutjob who edits the username out of every quote . . . .
To reiterate:
I don't manually delete the username from quotes. I Ctrl-C and manually type in quote /quote in brackets. The forum should do its job in terms of citing for me in that respect. This is pretty standard forum etiquette. I take it you don't frequent other forums often? (No disrespect, it just would explain the double posting, this, etc.)
Also, how is that narcissistic? Isn't that the OPPOSITE of it? It's certainly orthogonal to narcissism...
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 10, 10, 02:27PM
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AmonsEssays: Also, how is that narcissistic?
It's incredibly narcissistic to think that you can come here and unilaterally change the quoting system and/or impose your practices on long-time, existing members. Sorry, that's not quoting works here. YOU don't get to decide how the system "should" work. Who in the hell are you to dictate that? There are over 30,000 posts in this forum, not one of which employs YOUR quoting method.
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Edited by: AmonsEssays Dec 10, 10, 02:34PM
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It's incredibly narcissistic to think that you can come here and unilaterally change the quoting system and/or impose your practices on long-time, existing members. Sorry, that's not quoting works here. YOU don't get to decide how the system "should" work. Who in the hell are you to dictate that? There are over 30,000 posts in this forum, not one of which employs YOUR quoting method.
Except I didn't ask anyone else to change theirs. You brought it up, I explained what *I* was doing. I never impugned doing things differently. Were you of a helpful disposition, you might say, "Are you aware that the quoting system works thusly? It's a matter of etiquette here..." And I would work on adopting that as a habit.
To reiterate: The moment that there are no more posts from you here, I do not reply here, nor in any other way or thread, to you.
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Edited by: WRT Dec 10, 10, 03:06PM
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I truly don't understand what you are driving at here. You will stop posting when the forum's longest-standing member stops posting? Do you know how many companies she has exposed and, in the process, how many students and writers she's helped?
I am sorry but I really don't understand the nature of your argument with WB. Taking her on is an exercise in futility as she'll run rings around you. If you assume that engaging with her would endear you to other posters, you are wrong. It simply makes us question why you would attack the one person who has done more to fight fraud in this industry than any other has. It makes us question whether you have something to hide.
This is an honest question ... why are you acting like this? You certainly come across as intelligent enough to know better.
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Edited by: AmonsEssays Dec 10, 10, 03:32PM
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I truly don't understand what you are driving at here. You will stop posting when the forum's longest-standing member stops posting? Do you know how many companies she has exposed and, in the process, how many students and writers she's helped?
No. I had acknowledged her wonderful work. I do not want her to stop posting to this forum or even to this thread.
I'm saying I'm not going to argue with her anymore. I will reply to other people, on other threads. I'll stay in my corner, unilaterally, barring her saying something about me. She has suggested, to her credit, the same thing. Either I have a way of speaking that makes her angry or she is very sensitive: Either way, I am going to do what I can to avoid provoking WB. I think that is fair for everyone.
I had made the agreement clearer near the top of this page.
I am sorry but I really don't understand the nature of your argument with WB. Taking her on is an exercise in futility as she'll run rings around you. If you assume that engaging with her would endear you to other posters, you are wrong. It simply makes us question why you would attack the one person who has done more to fight fraud in this industry than any other has. It makes us question whether you have something to hide.
This is an honest question ... why are you acting like this? You certainly come across as intelligent enough to know better.
WRT: I'm not trying to endear myself to anyone. I am just using this forum as a way to protect me and my sub-contractors, and help people who are even newer to the field than I am with the best information I have. Nor has she "run rings" around me: I have responded to every one of her arguments with no difficulty. Every one of the arguments I disagree with, which, in general, I don't, as she's usually spot-on about the industry.
The disagreement came about when I didn't agree with something she said about Ebonics. I provided my disagreement, and explained why. It escalated for reasons I still do not understand, and I am trying to make sure it de-escalates now. But I'm not going to be treated apishly. I don't think that's an inappropriate stand. I will reply to attacks on my character but will not initiate any more comments, no matter how respectful I think they are.
She has not replied to this thread thus far, so I am only replying to you at the moment.
I hope that makes the issue clearer.
I have nothing to hide. I run a business I am proud of. I want her to continue exposing frauds, and will do what I can to help with that wonderful exercise. But I hope that it's clear that doing good work doesn't make bad work acceptable. Going after me over an honest disagreement over language would be deeply inappropriate, wouldn't it? I am making sure that doesn't happen, so that no honest person providing good work is harmed.
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Dec 10, 10, 03:56PM
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Thanks for the clarification but, pls pls pls, keep the name in the quotes :( Helps us identify who you are responding to.
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Dec 11, 10, 05:38AM
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WRT: Thanks for the clarification but, pls pls pls, keep the name in the quotes :( Helps us identify who you are responding to.
No problem. I see now that the way you add the quote when you're doing it manually, like I prefer, is to say "=[X person in question]". Very cool. Some forums also add dates and times of the quoted text. I think that's definitely the best way of being honest.
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Dec 11, 10, 03:24PM
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Yes ... date and time would be good :)
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