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May 28, 09, 02:50PM
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crownroyalty: | Today, 01:19PM ¦ #40 Does anyone know why these type of sites are closing?
They are crooks. The Bestessays group, masterpapers, customessays.co.uk, essayassistance, capitalessays, ma-dissertations, etc., are Ukranian companies, not British and Americans as they so blatantly proclaim. They regularly scam customers and writers, retain the right to resell a customer's `custom-ordered' research and most of their writers have no business writing at primary-school level, let alone university-level. They claim that their writers hold PhD and MA degrees and are native English-language speakers. A handful of their writers fulfil this description but the majority do not. In brief, these companies are owned and managed by fraudsters.
WritersBeware has posted the link to an investigator's report of these companies' activities. The assumption here is that, as the evidence against them continues to accumulate, these sites may eventually be shut down by court order.
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Edited by: EW_writer May 28, 09, 07:33PM
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WritersBeware: Ah, I see—EW-writer's SOLE reason for constantly attacking me is because I am a "meanie." Right. I'm sure that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that I have outed every one of his fraudulent employer's filthy tactics.
Yes, it doesn't. Here I'll say it, my employers are illegitimate! We DO pass ourselves off as American (hey, some of us can most certainly pull it off). I've completed over 2000 papers mostly for American students and we don't hinder them from submitting purchased papers for credit. Unlike other sites, we will never give them up if ever questioned by authorities because hey, we're crooks who allow students to cheat their way through college.
Happy? ^__^ It's not about all this, missy. It's about your ugly mouth.
WritersBeware: Neither does it have anything to do with the fact that I so utterly destroyed him in a previous argument by crafting my points of attack in such a way that he was literally left with no other choice but to openly and explicitly admit that he is a liar and fraud.
I would LOVE to document each of our arguments and show both in syllogism and practicality that I decimated you every time, but what I'd love more, is to leave that chore to you. :p Have fun. :D
OxbridgeResearchers: They are crooks. The Bestessays group, masterpapers, customessays.co.uk, essayassistance, capitalessays, ma-dissertations, etc., are Ukranian companies, not British and Americans as they so blatantly proclaim. They regularly scam customers and writers, retain the right to resell a customer's `custom-ordered' research and most of their writers have no business writing at primary-school level, let alone university-level. They claim that their writers hold PhD and MA degrees and are native English-language speakers. A handful of their writers fulfil this description but the majority do not. In brief, these companies are owned and managed by fraudsters.
I agree that we lie about our nationality but please don't use that as a springboard to launch a bunch of other half-truths. All companies resell. Even ET resells. I have over 2000 customers who weren't scammed. While there are crappy writers and while the company does hire them indiscriminately, they usually get booted out in the first month which lead them to come bawling their frustrations on this site. The company does keep a number of good writers, like me. Any company that sells homework to student is guilty of fraud where any academic institution is concerned. Just ask the University of Sydney, for example. ~_^ Oh.. and I do have an MS in Statistics (but yeah, that's irrelevant. EW doesn't check if you really do have a graduate degree). ^_^
Oh and btw, you never answered my questions.
Day 770.
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May 28, 09, 08:45PM
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WritersBeware: 1. I would place test orders specifically for him and tear his writing to shreds for all to see by highlighting his countless errors.
EW_writer: Hey... you can do this even without knowing my I.D. ^_^ Just hire me to write something on this message board and I'll do it if the topic's up my alley. ^_^ Oh, but I strictly ask for payment in advance and I know that you're already tight enough as it is on cash nowadays so I won't push... unless you insist. :D
What say you, client? :) Put your mouth where your money couldn't be, yet again? :D Haha!
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 01:43AM
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EW_writer: I would LOVE to document each of our arguments and show both in syllogism and practicality that I decimated you every time
OK, loser, I'll make it easy on you. How about you show everyone just TWO threads in which you "decimated" me?
EW_writer: All companies resell.
As a calculated and deceptive marketing tactic, your employer tries to HIDE the fact that it resells so that it can attack other companies that do so openly and honesty. That's the difference, crook!
EW_writer: While there are crappy writers and while the company does hire them indiscriminately
Your deceptive employer lies about hiring such woefully unqualified writers in the first place! Tell me—what happened to their advertised promise of "only native English speaking writers with Master and PhD degrees from North American and British universities"? Not for a SECOND does anyone believe your excuses, anyway.
EW_writer: What say you, client? :) Put your mouth where your money couldn't be, yet again?
Apparently, you do not grasp the concept of the challenge, crook. You have to reveal your writer ID on both EssayWriters.net and EB. Then, we'll be in business. I'll place orders at a later date, when you do NOT expect it and do NOT go out of your way to get the papers proofread and edited by a PROFESSIONAL before delivering.
You will not accept the challenge because you know all too well that I will RUIN you by attaching a "face" to your—thus far—anonymous crimes and second-rate writing skills.
LOL—bring on the excuses!
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Edited by: EW_writer May 29, 09, 06:12AM
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WritersBeware: OK, loser, I'll make it easy on you. How about you show everyone just TWO threads in which you "decimated" me?
This is one thread... just look around on the site and pick any other thread where we exchanged at least 5 posts. ^_^
WritersBeware: As a calculated and deceptive marketing tactic, your employer tries to HIDE the fact that it resells so that it can attack other companies that do so openly and honesty. That's the difference, crook!
I thought you pointed out that the resell clause was written in the fine print somewhere? o.O
WritersBeware: Your deceptive employer lies about hiring such woefully unqualified writers in the first place! Tell me—what happened to their advertised promise of "only native English speaking writers with Master and PhD degrees from North American and British universities"? Not for a SECOND does anyone believe your excuses, anyway.
Well... that's a lie. Essaywriters.net hires a lot of bad eggs, who don't have PhDs. They just get rid of them quickly. What excuses did I make again? o.O
WritersBeware: Apparently, you do not grasp the concept of the challenge, crook. You have to reveal your writer ID on both EssayWriters.net and EB. Then, we'll be in business. I'll place orders at a later date, when you do NOT expect it and do NOT go out of your way to get the papers proofread and edited by a PROFESSIONAL before delivering.
Spoken like a true numskull. >.< You think I'd actually pay someone to proofread my work if you order from me? o.O What would be the point? I'd probably spend much more money than whatever you'd pay me if I did that. XD I won't tell you my writer's ID because I'm not sure how essaywriters.net would react to actually finding out who I am. Plus even if I do give you my I.D., I probably won't end up accepting your order anyway (I accept very few of orders requested of me because such orders usually pay really low). As for essaybay, I don't mention my account here because I'd obviously get in trouble with JenniferAA. Obviously, people would be able to contact us for private orders if they had a way of getting to us off the site and I think a lot of people here would agree that all the clients who visit this message board would flock me if they found out who I was. (What say you, Oxbridge?)^__^ The bottom line is, you're either chicken or too hard up for cash because of your meds to order from me.
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May 29, 09, 06:15AM
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Oh yeah.. it's still day 770 people. The 770th day of WritersBeware's continued humiliation. This thread won't stop until essaywriters.net is closed down or WB buys the farm from a heart attack. Whichever comes first. :D
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May 29, 09, 06:41AM
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EW_writer: I think a lot of people here would agree that all the clients who visit this message board would flock me if they found out who I was. (What say you, Oxbridge?)^__^
I hate to say it ... but I agree with this statement :(
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May 29, 09, 08:11AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: I hate to say it ... but I agree with this statement :(
Thank you.
So WB, feel free to post that order here if you wish. I'll try not to disappoint you... or rather, let me try to disappoint you. >.<
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 01:02PM
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WritersBeware: LOL—bring on the excuses!
As predicted . . . . Coward. OR, you see how he now tries to turn his embarrassing loss into a "victory" for him? I make a challenge, he declines like a little biaaaatch (just like I predicted that he would), and then tries to paint ME as the loser! This is a perfect example of the so-called "*ss kicking" about which he brags on a daily basis. It's really disturbing that he could be so completely out-of-touch and delusional.
EW_writer: would flock me
Really? They would "flock [you]"?
EW_writer: This is one thread... just look around on the site and pick any other thread where we exchanged at least 5 posts.
OR, is this guy delusional, or what? Never ONCE has he had the balls to be specific about his "kicking my *ss." He's claims that his victories are in "every confrontation between us," yet he can't point to a few? It's the same excuse over, and over, and over, and over again: "just look at any thread." LMAO! He uses that excuse because he knows damn well that he CAN'T be specific!
You know what else is funny? EW_Writer is completely obsessed with me. (In the real world, I'd need a restraining order.) He actually thinks that he's a match for my truth, evidence, and debating skills. In actuality, what he overlooks is the fact that, at any given time, I'm simultaneously embroiled in investigations and arguments with one or more of his criminal buddies, forum shills, or companies that lie to and/or cheat customers. He gets only a fraction of my attention, yet I still crush him EVERY time. I mean, it's not like I really need the extra time and focus to crush him, as he brings absolutely nothing of significance to the table. He claims an "*ss kicking" by telling people how long that I've been a member of this forum. So? MY JOIN DATE IS CLEAR-AS-DAY, TO THE LEFT OF EVERY ONE OF MY POSTS. What he conveniently does not mention is that I have focused my attention on DOZENS of different fraudsters and deceptive sites, not just his dirty employer. Like the liar and scammer that he is, he will have people believe that I have done nothing but claim to personally shut down his employer since the day that I joined. That couldn't possibly be any further from the truth.
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May 29, 09, 01:25PM
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WB, what I find rather surprising is that EW admits that the Ukranians are fraudsters but then goes on to defend them. My question is simple, why would any legit company (as in one which intends to defraud neither writers nor customers) hide its REAL contact info and why, on earth, do they lie about nationality. Doesn't any of this underscore just how crooked their intentions really are? And the fact that many do it is really no excuse.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 01:29PM
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EW_writer: Obviously, people would be able to contact us for private orders if they had a way of getting to us off the site
Oh, how sweet! After bragging about stealing customers from his employers for YEARS by going out of his way to repeatedly state that he is the "top" writer at both EssayBay and EssayWriters.net, he's suddenly grown a heart. Isn't that nice? How odd it is that his heart growth just happens to coincide with my challenge to provide his writer ID. This "caring" approach to his employers comes from a crook who has repeatedly bragged about taking off-the-books orders via PM by way of advertising his self-proclaimed status as the "best writer" for both sites.
Look, everyone, EW_writer just "kicked my *ss" again!
Ownage.
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Edited by: OxbridgeResearchers May 29, 09, 01:31PM
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WritersBeware: As predicted . . . . Coward. OR, you see how he now tries to turn his embarrassing loss into a "victory" for him? I make a challenge, he declines
What about it EW? List your subject areas and WB will post a topic for you on the forum, with a reasonable deadline. Once you've finished, just post it here and we'll 1) check it using turnitin and if it passes the plagiarism test 2) you select a panel of 2 judges from the forum (WB will be the third) and they will grade your work. The two you select, however, have to be native speakers ... You can do it so why not? It is the low season and really won't take up much of your time.
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May 29, 09, 01:35PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: EW admits that the Ukranians are fraudsters but then goes on to defend them.
That's because he's an anonymous coward who monetarily benefits from the CRIMES of his employer. It's easy to outwardly promote and condone fraud when one is an anonymous coward.
OxbridgeResearchers: why would any legit company (as in one which intends to defraud neither writers nor customers) hide its REAL contact info and why, on earth, do they lie about nationality
Their entire business model is based on fraud and deception.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 01:37PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: What about it EW? List your subject areas and WB will post a topic for you on the forum, with a reasonable deadline. Once you've finished, just post it here and we'll 1) check it using turnitin and if it passes the plagiarism test 2) you select a panel of 2 judges from the forum (WB will be the third) and they will grade your work. The two you select, however, have to be native speakers ... You can do it so why not? It is the low season and really won't take up much of your time.
Sorry, not acceptable. My challenge is based on him providing his writer ID. Plus, no way in hell do I give him advance warning.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 01:59PM
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Contrary to EW_writer's lies, I have made some bold statements/predictions in this forum and made quite good on them. Here are a few, in no particular order:
* "The YSM advertising accounts of EssayRelief.com, MasterPapers.com, and BestEssays.com will shortly be banned by Yahoo, leading to a sweeping ban on all essay sites." OUTCOME: True. (After this prediction came to fruition, EW_writer's pitiful excuse was that his employer "voluntarily" shut down its own account. LMAO! Of course, he asserted that I had absolutely nothing to do with it, either. He's already laying the groundwork to make that same claim in the future.)
* "The days of the EssayRelief empire are numbered, regardless of their location in Pakistan." OUTCOME: True.
* "My work will help to make the industry more transparent for consumers." OUTCOME: True.
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May 29, 09, 02:07PM
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WritersBeware: My challenge is based on him providing his writer ID. Plus, no way in hell do I give him advance warning.
Yes, I see your point. You want to see EW's average/standard work.
EW - Just PM your ID to WB. Why not?
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May 29, 09, 02:38PM
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WB - the *****, SNR case? It turns out that you were right. I just came across a full summary of the US case now. Apparently, what I had read via Westlaw was the Pakistani case:
Student Term Paper Website Brings a Lawsuit; Instead Gets Nailed With $700k Award Against It--***** v. Student Network Resources
By Eric Goldman
***** v. Student Network Resources, 2008 WL 4754907 (D. N.J. Oct. 22, 2008). The Justia page. *****'s initial complaint. A letter from defense counsel to the judge recapping some of the sad story.
I'm always fascinated when plaintiffs initiate a lawsuit but end up owing the defendants money. I understand that litigation inherently involves uncertainty about the outcomes. However, when the plaintiff ends up owing money, the plaintiffs appear to have made a major miscalculation. Certainly they should have just stayed home rather than mixing it up in court.
Today's case involves the apparently brutal and cutthroat (perhaps literally?) business of student term paper websites. You may recall that Google blacklisted all term paper websites from its AdWords program. I've also blogged on Blue Macellari's complaint against some term paper sites she thought had ripped her off (the case settled). The Turnitin lawsuit is also relevant.
The litigants in today's case are competitors in the student term paper business. *****, a Pakistan-based IT services company, initiated the lawsuit by alleging that SNR was trying to steer business away from ***** through defamatory statements at the home page and user forums of a website operated by SNR. The complaint cites some pretty strong allegations by the defendants beyond just selling bogus term papers, including purported accusations that the plaintiffs are a "crime syndicate," run a "prostitution ring" and threatened reporters with murder. [Note: I have received legal demands from ***** regarding this paragraph. To make sure there's no confusion, the last sentence refers to the allegations, all of which ***** has denied.]
The defendants fought back with counterclaims alleging that ***** was ripping off SNR by buying term papers and then republishing them through the ***** website. The defendants then sent a Rule 11 letter asserting that the complaint's allegations lacked merit. After the letter, plaintiff's counsel withdrew, saying "Dreier discovered information which, if known at the time the complaint was filed, would have caused Dreier to refuse to file the complaint in this matter on behalf of *****." This left ***** without counsel, and apparently it had difficulty finding new counsel because it asked the court if it could proceed pro se. The court predictably denied the lawsuit because companies can't appear pro se in court. As a result, the litigation went to default judgment on defendants' counterclaims.
In the Oct. 22 opinion, the court awards damages of $300k and attorneys' fees of $36k for the copyright infringements, plus regular damages of $2.5k and punitive damages of $350k under the NJ unfair competition act. All told, an award of nearly $700k to the defendants in a lawsuit that the plaintiffs should not have brought.
***** may have defaulted, in part, because it is pursuing a parallel lawsuit in Pakistan. Assuming it can win in its home court, it's still not clear how ***** can collect on a Pakistani judgment against the defendants. At the same time, it will be interesting to see if the defendants can get paid themselves.
http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2008/11/student_paper_w.htm
Fingers crossed the Ukranians will go the same way ...
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 03:02PM
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SNR got "paid" when Honorable Judge Freda Wolfson of the US Federal District Court of New Jersey ordered all 555 of *****'s sites to be transferred to SNR. More importantly, the public benefits by way of 555 fraudulent, copyright-infringing sites being shut down. Indeed, Judge Wolfson echoed the exact same sentiments that I have communicated in this forum: such action by the Court is in the best interests of the public good, as there is no reason to believe that the fraud will otherwise stop. The Ukrainian fraudsters are looking down the same barrel.
The Pakistani case is a complete joke. Court records and attorney letters to the judge indicate that SNR completely ignored the after-the-fact lawsuit in Pakistan because it was, and still is, utterly inconsequential and meaningless. US Federal Court of New Jersey records and attorney letters to/from the judge also prove that the Pakistanis behind ***** filed that new, "sour grapes" lawsuit in Pakistan—using virtually the EXACT SAME complaints that were already crushed in New Jersey—only AFTER their own attorney in New Jersey DUMPED them and the writing was on the wall. Have you read all of the Court documents and Order? Fascinating. Indeed, SNR's attorneys were so brilliant and their countersuits so strong that *****'s own attorney wanted nothing to do with ***** any longer, petitioning the judge to unilaterally close the case against *****'s will! The judge complied. Any attorney will tell you that such action by a Federal judge NEVER happens, aside from instances of, for example, egregious fraud and deception against members of the Court and/or damaging testimony in camera to the judge by a party's OWN attorney. Along with a devastating ruling against *****, which, among other things, awarded to SNR nearly $700,000 and all 555 of *****'s sites, the judge issued a scathing Opinion of exactly what she thinks of *****'s egregious "business practices."
I have no doubt—whatsoever—that Judge Wolfson or any other US judge will hold the exact same opinion of EssayWriters.net and Universal Research from Ukraine.
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May 29, 09, 03:20PM
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WritersBeware: Have you read all of the Court documents and Order?
Yes - absolutely shocking! I know that many in this industry are plain dirty and believe that just because they are operating e-commerce entities, do not need to pay heed to any laws. But to this extent?! And why aren't the Ukranian gangsters taking notice? Their practices are just as despicable.
I agree with you - any who doubt that the fraudsters and scammers are going to have to face the music one day, only need read up on this case. The industry needs to be fumigated; ***** is out and the Ukranian gangs will soon go the same way if they don't shape up (I don't believe they ever will as they are pathological fraudsters).
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 03:31PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: And why aren't the Ukranian gangsters taking notice?
Well, as you indicated, their attitude is "come and get me" (specifically repeated by EW_writer in this forum). What they are too STUPID to realize is that legal precedent is now set by the ***** case, making legal action against the Ukrainians MUCH more simple and straightforward than it originally was against the Pakistanis at *****. Plus, there is much MORE evidence against the Ukrainians. Basically, all it will take to shut down Universal Research—and therefore stop them from defrauding the public—is virtually any type of lawsuit that brings the evidence before a judge, even a class action by former writers and/or customers. In fact, I'm sure that there are plenty of attorneys who would be willing to take this type of case pro-bono or on a contingency basis.
Exwriter, any connections? ;)
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May 29, 09, 03:39PM
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Completely true ... going after the Ukranians will be much less complicated. Certainly, gathering evidence, preparing a case, etc takes time but, enforcement will be simpler than with ***** (which was successful despite the jurisdiction complications).
Yuriy ... Alexei ... wake up! *****'s own lawyers withdrew. So what do you think your respective lawyers will do? Hang, disembowel, quarter and burn you?
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May 29, 09, 03:47PM
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I think I'm going to have to call it a day because I just can't handle EW_writer "kicking my *ss" so much (in his own threads). I need a cold pack.
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Edited by: EW_writer May 29, 09, 05:59PM
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WritersBeware: Really? They would "flock [you]"?
EW_writer: and I think a lot of people here would agree that all the clients who visit this message board would flock me if they found out who I was
OxbridgeResearchers: I hate to say it ... but I agree with this statement :(
WritersBeware: Oh, how sweet! After bragging about stealing customers from his employers for YEARS by going out of his way to repeatedly state that he is the "top" writer at both EssayBay and EssayWriters.net, he's suddenly grown a heart.
I play by the rules so as not to get myself into trouble. I think JenniferAA would agree that simply saying that "I'm the best writer of Essaybay" without posting my I.D. doesn't really constitute as grounds for account termination.
WritersBeware: Their entire business model is based on fraud and deception.
In the words of dearbats: "This entire INDUSTRY is based on fraud and deception." Oxbridge? You disagree? :p
WritersBeware: * "The YSM advertising accounts of EssayRelief.com, MasterPapers.com, and BestEssays.com will shortly be banned by Yahoo, leading to a sweeping ban on all essay sites." OUTCOME: True.
Do you have proof that YSM particularly banned Universal Research or essaywriters.net or even some unscrupulous websites selling homework to college students? :p No? I thought so.
OxbridgeResearchers: The industry needs to be fumigated
What, only American homework makers should be allowed to survive? :D
OxbridgeResearchers: Yes, I see your point. You want to see EW's average/standard work. EW - Just PM your ID to WB. Why not?
Right.. and what do you think WB would do with that information, seeing how she likes me so much? o.O The thing is, I don't need to prove anything. I've said it once and I'll say it again, I don't field for clients on this message board (well, I get a few every now and then but I don't actively find them). It's WB who wants to prove that my writing skills are inferior so she should be the one to make an effort to abide by my terms. ^_^ As for me, I know that I am one of essaywriters.net's best, I (and you) know that I am one of essaybey's best (if not its best altogether), and I'm quite satisfied with what I've achieved in the industry in the past few years that I've been in it.
Day 771 folks. Essaywriters.net is still up and running (although we got like haha 49 orders left since its the low season)
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May 29, 09, 06:14PM
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I wonder... why is WB so agitated by this thread? I mean, Why doesn't she just leave me to count my employers' days (which are supposed to be numbered) in peace? Who's obsessed with who here? o.O
Day 771.
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Edited by: OxbridgeResearchers May 29, 09, 06:37PM
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1. I think WB meant "flog," not "flock" you.
2. Yes - I do agree that you probably are the best of what Essaywriters has now and know that you are really selling yourself short by staying on with them. But you have got to remember I know because I know and you cannot expect any to agree BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW.
EW_writer: What, only American homework makers should be allowed to survive?
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May 29, 09, 06:40PM
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EW_writer: I wonder... why is WB so agitated by this thread?
You are the one who started it EW - so, in all honesty, this thread is something of a testament to your obsession with her :)
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May 29, 09, 07:35PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: we know that some students will present the model papers they purchased from us, as their own work. So, yes - we are enabling student fraud.
This makes this:
OxbridgeResearchers: it is honesty versus dishonesty.
pointless, does it not?
OxbridgeResearchers: Despite that, our fraud (legit companies) is nothing compared to that which the industry gangsters have based their businesses upon.
The fraud of helping students cheat their way to becoming accountants, lawyers and *gulp* nurses and doctors is nothing compared to.. what? Pretending to be Americans as a marketing ploy for attracting such students? o.O
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May 29, 09, 07:59PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: If essaywriters.net were honest about its identity and its writers' qualifications, I would not have a problem with their being Ukranian. It is not American and British vs Ukranians and Pakistanis - it is honesty versus dishonesty.
I could not have put it any better myself! This matter has absolutely NOTHING to do with geographical location. In fact, I have gleefully invited EW_writer and numerous other "crook types" to provide me with ANY justification to criticize American or British companies for engaging in ANY form of fraud, and he/they can't do it! These fraudsters LIVE to prove me wrong, and they can't! That's why they are so VERY frustrated.
You know what else is funny—the more EW_writer flaps his virtual lips and gives the investigator additional inspiration to research and post more and more convincing arguments and evidence against his disgusting employer, the more and more attractive the case becomes to lawyers on a pro-bono basis. The less work that a lawyer anticipates having to do, the more likely that he/she is to accept the case pro-bono.
EW_writer, you're just too stupid to realize that your fruitless attempts to prevent honesty and justice have merely helped in building an extremely strong legal case against your employer. Let's make one thing clear—the information that is already public is MORE than sufficient to get your employer shut down permanently via Federal injunction. Plus, a good investigator will NEVER show all of his cards until it really counts. ;)
Up to this point, the only things that have prevented EW_writer's employer from being shut down are:
1. dedicated people with legal experience who have sufficient, personal time to address the situation;
2. funding.
Thanks to EW_writer, #1 is no longer an issue and #2 is on its way to becoming a non-issue.
Much love, EW_writer.
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May 29, 09, 08:04PM
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EW_writer's argument is that Toyota is criminally responsible if one of its customers uses a Prius as a weapon.
Why is it so easy to beat every one of EW_writer's arguments?
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Edited by: EW_writer May 29, 09, 08:32PM
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WritersBeware: EW_writer's argument is that Toyota is criminally responsible if one of its customers uses a Prius as a weapon. Why is it so easy to beat every one of EW_writer's arguments?
Faulty parallelism. You can have a gazillion reasons to buy a car but you can only have ONE reason for buying a custom-made paper on homework assigned to you by your university. Got you again (See? I just don't keep count).
WritersBeware: Thanks to EW_writer, #1 is no longer an issue and #2 is on its way to becoming a non-issue.
Great. Now shut your stinking trap and let me continue my count.
Day 771 people.
On a side note, I showed WB's "Toyota" argument to a friendly rival of mine at last year's World's (She happened to be online). She had this to say: *Barf*
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May 29, 09, 08:51PM
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EW_writer: you can only have ONE reason for buying a custom-made paper on homework assigned to you by your university
Really? Can you show ANY proof, whatsoever, to support this assertion? Nope, you can't. Would you like me to show you PROOF that you are 100% wrong?
EW_writer: She had this to say: *Barf*
It must have been a video chat.
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May 29, 09, 09:28PM
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WritersBeware: Really? Can you show ANY proof, whatsoever, to support this assertion? Nope, you can't. Would you like me to show you PROOF that you are 100% wrong?
Any student who'd be willing to pay $100 for an essay would most certainly not just use it as a guide and just properly reference it in his/her actual paper. Some students may take precautions and paraphrase some of the work but even then, the fact that somebody else did the research already constitutes academic fraud. So where's your proof? :p
WritersBeware: It must have been a video chat.
Nope, that's exactly what she typed.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 09:52PM
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EW_writer: Any student who'd be willing to pay $100 for an essay would most certainly not just use it as a guide and just properly reference it in his/her actual paper.
EW_writer: So where's your proof? :p
Re: Boston University vs. Term Paper Companies, 1997-1998
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"One of the companies named in the suit, a N.J.-based firm called The Paper Store Enterprises, turned over [as ordered by subpoena] a list of seven BU students who bought papers there and a university investigation found that [only] one of the students tried to pass the work off as his own. The other [six] buyers apparently used the papers properly, as research material."
http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=31843&CFID=8419205&CFT OKEN=27456135
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This is documented, LEGEL PROOF that students do not buy example papers only to cheat. In this real-world example, 86% of the students referenced/cited the papers properly.
So much for the basis of EW_writer's ENTIRE DEFENSE in this forum. Thanks for playing!
EW_writer gets OWNED yet again (in his own thread).
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 29, 09, 10:21PM
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EW_writer: the fact that somebody else did the research already constitutes academic fraud
Really? What's that you say? According to EW_writer, the hundreds of thousands of teachers and professors around the world who benefit from the use of research assistants are, as he asserts, "academic frauds."
EW_writer gets RE-OWNED yet again (in his own thread).
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May 29, 09, 11:03PM
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EW_writer: In the words of dearbats: "This entire INDUSTRY is based on fraud and deception."
I assert this once again. This industry IS based on fraud and deception.
It's like arguing whether the sale of drugs to the youth and future of a country is based on moral and ethical grounds and whether those who engage in such practices adhere to the so called rules and laws of legitimacy.
First provide a platform to cheat and when you get competition, design laws, rules regulations to prove supremacy!!
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May 29, 09, 11:20PM
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EW_writer: How do you feel now?
I feel fine strangely enough lol. I was merely pointing out that IF this site WAS your ONLY source of work, that 11 orders divided amongst god knows how many writers would hardly constitute being swamped.
Essaybay also seems to have quite a lot of OPEN orders, but very few where writers have been selected for the projects. Seems to suggest that customers are not quite so enamoured with the service as they have posted their projects and then not bothered to select a writer to assist.
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Edited by: EW_writer May 30, 09, 12:52AM
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exwriter: I feel fine strangely enough lol. I was merely pointing out that IF this site WAS your ONLY source of work, that 11 orders divided amongst god knows how many writers would hardly constitute being swamped.
Great, it's good that that's cleared up. From your first post it seemed that you were implying that I was getting my work entirely from EW. ^_^
WritersBeware: This is documented, LEGEL PROOF that students do not buy example papers only to cheat. In this real-world example, 86% of the students referenced/cited the papers properly.
WOW... 86% of all students who buy papers on their homework DO NOT use those papers to cheat. Ok people, you get a free lesson is Statistics. Do you know WHERE WB got her 86%?
WritersBeware: "One of the companies named in the suit, a N.J.-based firm called The Paper Store Enterprises, turned over [as ordered by subpoena] a list of seven BU students who bought papers there and a university investigation found that [only] one of the students tried to pass the work off as his own. The other [six] buyers apparently used the papers properly, as research material."
Here's the computation that led to the generalization that 86% of students who buy papers from homework writing sites do not use it for cheating.
6/7=0.857142857 x 100% = 85.71% or 86%.
What's wrong with this computation? You can't base your generalization on just ONE company much less just 7 samples from that one company when there are hundreds of companies and thousands of students buying from them. :D
Sigh... I do get tired of winning all the time.. really. What this pathetic MORON passes off as evidences for issues that really matter are crap. Period. XD
Still day 771, people.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 30, 09, 01:08AM
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EW_writer: You can't base your generalization on just ONE company much less just 7 samples
Did I make a "generalization"? Nope. YOU did, moron. Here it is:
EW_writer: Any student who'd be willing to pay $100 for an essay would most certainly not just use it as a guide and just properly reference it in his/her actual paper.
I posted LEGAL EVIDENCE to prove that your claims are horsesh*t. You DO know what EVIDENCE is, don't you? You know—that stuff based in FACT? You're just mad because I beat the tar out of you—AGAIN.
YOU LOSE. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
By the way—who thinks that EW_fraudster "won"?
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 30, 09, 01:25AM
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EW_writer: I do get tired of winning all the time.
WOW. Delusion personified, my friend . . . . Loserville has a new resident.
EW_writer's definition of "victory" = posting how long I've been a member
LMAO!
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May 30, 09, 01:33AM
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WritersBeware: I posted LEGAL EVIDENCE to prove that your claims are horsesh*t. You DO know what EVIDENCE is, don't you? You know—that stuff based in FACT? You're just mad because I beat the tar out of you—AGAIN.
Your evidence IS horseshit. ^_^ Nobody's going to believe your statement that most students who use homework writing companies do not turn in the work they buy as their own. You're not generalizing? Great, then you're not proving anything except that I'm right. ^_^
WritersBeware: By the way—who thinks that EW_fraudster "won"?
Yeah... who thinks that WritersBeware is correct that most of the students who buy from homework writing sites such as EW and ET DON'T turn in the stuff they buy for credit? C'mon.. LET'S HEAR IT PEOPLE!!!! ^____^
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