| Ekta |
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Oct 29, 08, 08:57AM
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Please let me know, whether I should join pencamp.com. I have cleared their interview.
Also, I have received offers from uvocorp.com and freelancewritingcenter.com
and allwriting.net
Should I work for these companies?
If no, then for which companies should I work.
Is there any experienced writer in our circle who can rightly guide?
Thank you and best wishes.
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| MAK |
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Oct 29, 08, 12:01PM
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Dear Ekta,
We are all in the same boat here looking for contract Jobs now that the busy season has kicked in.Writing companies are mushrooming left,right and centre.I feel that UvoCorp and freelancewritingcenter have a slightly twisted agreement where they say they will put some of your payment on hold every month and several other things which I , as a lawyer and an experienced freelancer found disturbing.Go ahead and give it a try.Not sure about Pencamp yet....let me try that one this week....Also UVOCORP asks for like 275 words a page....They seem like an OK company but then again one can never be sure.I also noticed that academicexperts.us and Uvocorp are sister companies...Just do your paperwork and the necessary reading before you get into anything of this kind.I wasn't too happy to read that freelancewriting center is not based in the UK or US but in Hong Kong so in the event of a legal action the writer's rights will not be protected by UK/US employment law.
Why don't you ask writersbeware.She can definitely help you out here and is a senior contributing member of this community.
Some independent research never hurts before you start off. Your time and effort is precious. Try to do a little amount of work but try to do something that is worth your while and your talent.
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 29, 08, 03:12PM
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Mak, if a company claims to be in the United States, and you discover proof to the contrary, that is your cue to run in the opposite direction.
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| MAK |
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Oct 29, 08, 06:57PM
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Precisely WritersBeware...I agree with you a 100%.The Ukarianian site owners are definitely shady and sometimes the money they offer per project is below minimum wage.During the early days of my freelancing career when I was totally broke I once wrote an essay for this Russian guy whose name I don't want to mention and he cleverly demanded that there should be 300-350 words per page to "fill up the pages".I bet he charged the customer @ 250 words per page.Can you believe this? I mean they do not care if you are human at all and that you have spent a precious amount of time and energy working on a piece of work.Plus I have been reading and re-reading the policies of these new freelancing companies on the block and most of them have a clause that states that they may fine you even if you are 20 minutes late and that they will fine you for this or that ....and the list goes on ....I wonder what is left to in the name of earnings at he end of the month for the hardworking freelancer.So people do not trust these shady companies registered in Hong Kong or anywhere else.Protect your rights and help the industry by not letting these people thrive on minimum wage slave labour. These companies actually sell your work to other people for 5 times the original price and also resell this work to paper mills.If you really want to sell your copyrights make it worth your effort.It is understandable that Asian countries have a constantly depreciating exchange rate and even 4 dollars a page sounds nice to a person there looking to make some extra income.The truth is that these owners are neither ethical nor law abiding business people.They even have fake addresses.So tomorrow if they decide they would like to close down their business concern and run off with your money where will you go? One only has to look at the strict laws in Britain post the Companies Act 2006 and similar ones in the US to see that when a company actually goes through the trouble of paying tax and setting up a real office in line with the law ,it is actually serious in conducting business.Outsourcing is good for developing countries but it is time the scum of the industry which exploits and defrauds independent freelance writer no matter which part of the world they are from are stopped.
Furthermore I urge all freelance writers who have been abused and exploited by these people to come out and discuss their experiences in order to save other potential victims..
Cheers
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| Ekta |
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Nov 1, 08, 09:31AM
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Thank you very much for all your guidance.
Can I work for this site: freelancing-here.com
I have got the opportunity to work for them. Should I start accepting orders?
Please guide...
Thank you and best wishes
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| MAK |
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Nov 1, 08, 11:07AM
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Well I hope WB will help us here again but i'll go have a look now and get back to you.Have you checked it's credentials yourself according to the guidance given by writersbeware?
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| MAK |
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Nov 1, 08, 11:15AM
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Ok I had a look.I noticed that there is no phone number on their site .
However they have given a US address.The form is a direct copy of the Academia Research/Masterpapers contract form.They don't give you payment options but you have to write one of your own.I really don't know what to say but try doing a little work and see how they respond in terms of payment etc.I am a bit cynical of these writer mills.Whatever you do,don't sell your talent for peanuts.See if they are offering good rates of work first.
Looking forward to your review and lets hope WB helps you out here.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 1, 08, 01:28PM
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Ekta: freelancing-here.com
Shady, that's for sure.
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| Ekta |
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Nov 3, 08, 09:08AM
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Please provide me your complete guidance: freelancing-here.com
I am a bit confused.
Does it mean they are not reliable?
The website of the company has been registered in Florida.
What do you mean by Shady?
Thank you and best wishes.
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| MAK |
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Nov 3, 08, 02:35PM
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Shady=fraud + (God help you if you are employed by any of these frauds)
Save your time now and if you really are proficient in english and a native english speaker try applying to Essaytown/Papers4you/or even deveroux and deloitte....these companies have been there for a long time and will not defraud you....at least from my personal experience that is.
These new paper mills are just there to take advantage of writers in developing countries.They cannot even be physically located if they run off with your company~think about it.
Take care and stay safe- I have applied to like 10 companies this season.As soon as I can see an outcome there I will let you know.But sadly 3-4 of these companies that accepted me turned out to be total frauds.So I did the wise thing and did not proceed with any more work.
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| whitegrim |
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Nov 3, 08, 05:35PM
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I have been looking all the comments by WB and MAK...
Well really I have different opinions all around...
There are fraud companies around here, I have got no doubts about that...
When I came into this forum, I was working with writers.ph... It was the start as I never did a single order then... By visiting this forum I found out that writers.ph is a fraud... Well I kept on working with them... With addition of some other websites as well to see for myself if they really pay...!!!
But I have to be honest with every person over here that if you want to get any guidance from WB or any one else who thinks that he is the senior... You might be making big mistake as they will just say to stay away from these companies...
And at the end of the day you will see this technical writing a total fraud and might never come back to visit this forum... That is what I have gained from my short experience over here...
I was paid by writers.ph... and by all the other sites too... Though they were small amounts but they were paid...
I am not giving assurity about writers.ph or any other websites as they might not pay me next time !!! but for the time they have paid me... So go on with yourself with the search... Just listen to the people and do what is right for you...
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 3, 08, 05:38PM
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Whitegrim, I have provided EVIDENCE time and time again. You are wrong--period.
Precedent and testimony from countless victims speak much louder than your meager "experience."
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| MAK |
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Nov 3, 08, 06:02PM
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@whitegrim
If you are happy being paid peanuts for your efforts with considerable delays then we wish you all the best.
It is obvious these companies are fraudulent and I agree with WB-
Also looking at the level of your english language/grammar I can judge that you must be their "premium" writer which explains the reason they are frauds.
Good day and hope you get paid for your cheap publicity stint.
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| saloo81 |
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Dec 5, 08, 03:35PM
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Dear frnd,
you only join allwriting.net.they are 100% legitimate and very good HR thay have.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 5, 08, 03:41PM
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saloo81: very good HR thay have
Thanks for the promotion, Yoda.
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