| hillset |
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May 27, 11, 01:47PM
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Only joking.
I just started working for academia-research this week and thought I would start a thread so everyone can make fun of me and tell me how I'm going to get ripped off.
Don't worry though, I was awoken from my sleep early this morning with the sound of an email in my inbox notifying me of my first fine. Didn't include a works cited and got charged $4.50 on a $40 assignment, not unfair.
The real reason I'm posting is I'm curious if anyone has any advice for someone starting in the field. I'm well aware that almost every writer on this board is jaded by the industry so I'm sure my greenness is showing, but I'm here for the same reason I joined academia-research: to learn. Any advice or encouragement you can offer is greatly appreciated.
And any advice on advancing to a premium writer is also appreciated. I'd like to be a premium writer by the end of the summer, is this feasible/possible?
Also, what are some of the biggest reasons people get fined on academia-research? Is there anything I need to be checking off before I send in an assignment to make sure I'm avoiding fines?
Thank you so much for your help guys, I really do appreciate it.
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| MeoKhan |
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May 27, 11, 02:16PM
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Your joke is so hilarious. Pheelyks can you help HillSet?
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| hillset |
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May 27, 11, 02:34PM
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Just so people dont think I post unfunny jokes on the forum...the original title of the thread was "NEED NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAK PLEASE HELP". I understand having to change it, though. Glad you liked it MeoKhan.
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| MeoKhan |
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May 27, 11, 04:01PM
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hillset
I am really sorry to have dared to reply to a post which was meant only for the native speakers. I really appreciate this however, can you tell me what this original (but deleted title) **NEED NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAK PLEASE HELP mean? My English is so poor :-(
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| hillset |
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May 27, 11, 04:13PM
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MeoKhan, would you rather have an American or a Pakistani write an essay for you in your native language?
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| MeoKhan |
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May 27, 11, 05:07PM
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My threads have already addressed this issue. You can go through them if you'd like. You'll also find some interesting arguments from other writers.
However, you didn't answer my question: I am still wondering what the phrase in the bold type-face in my second-last post (originally posted by you in your 2nd-last post) mean?
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| pheelyks |
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May 27, 11, 07:24PM
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MeoKhan: My threads have already addressed this issue.
No, they haven't. According to your logic, a preference for a native Pakistani writer for writing a paper in a Pakistani university would be racist/elitist, but you have never explicitly addressed this issue.
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| alpha |
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May 28, 11, 03:29AM
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Hi Hillset,
I too have only been in the business a couple of months. I seem to be doing ok and I love writing essays. I just treat it as I would a college assignment, only instead of grades I get money. Reading and answering the question is the key – a great easy is worthless if it does not address or focus on the key issues.
While I do not consider myself a "professional writer", I am confident in my ability to produce high-quality coursework at the undergraduate and master's level. If you can get good grades in undergraduate classes then you should be able to produce what most clients are looking for, so just enjoy it.
If I received unfair fines I would certainly contest them, and discontinue writing for the company if they were not resolved.
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| pheelyks |
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May 28, 11, 08:17AM
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alpha: I do not consider myself a "professional writer",
Good. You've got some punctuation and case agreement issues to work on.
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| alpha |
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May 28, 11, 09:20AM
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pheelyks: Good. You've got some punctuation and case agreement issues to work on.
Pheelyks,
If you were criticising something that I considered polished your criticism would have some meaning. As it is I type and I submit, and I really cannot be assed beyond that because there is no one here I am trying to impress.
I write as well as any professor in my field. That is not saying much, but it does mean that I am qualified to write essays that the people grading them consider good.
My point is you do not need to be a professional writer to write at the undergraduate level!
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| hillset |
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May 28, 11, 09:32AM
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pheelyks: MeoKhan: My threads have already addressed this issue. No, they haven't. According to your logic, a preference for a native Pakistani writer for writing a paper in a Pakistani university would be racist/elitist, but you have never explicitly addressed this issue.
Exactly. SO glad you saw this thread Felix, I was really hoping you would. I honestly wanted to just message you my question but I didn't want to be a complete noob bugging you. I've been trolling the board for a while and it seems like youre one of the precious few sane people remaining here (along with a few others if you're reading this too). If you have any advice or help for me, I'd really appreciate it.
MeoKahn, please work on your verb tense. In your previous two posts, you've asked me what the phrase "mean". You "mean" to say "means". Don't worry though, I've included a link to some verb tense exercises you might want to practice to get better at your second language.
http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/exercises/exercise1.htm
To finally answer your question, I was implying that people working for essay writing services get assignment requests like that title all the time. Maybe you don't notice because its how you speak and write. Work on that exercise I gave you and hopefully you'll understand soon.
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| editor75 |
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May 28, 11, 01:18PM
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academia-research.com is going to rob you blind... and judging by your attitude towards people struggling with a second language, it's going to be sooner than later.
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| MeoKhan |
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May 28, 11, 03:31PM
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hillset: please work on your verb tense
It's just a typo and you know it. Glad you at least pointed that out.
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| MeoKhan |
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May 28, 11, 03:32PM
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You need to learn proper punctuation before you can thrill the world with your writing skills.
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| MeoKhan |
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May 28, 11, 03:35PM
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hillset: *NEED NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAK PLEASE HELP
hillset: people working for essay writing services get assignment requests like that
Oh, really? I see you've received such requests because you're working for Academia. Hmm, good one. I imply you'd produce a similar piece of writing for them.
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| pheelyks |
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May 28, 11, 06:12PM
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alpha: I write as well as any professor in my field.
You know this because....?
alpha: I am qualified to write essays that the people grading them consider good.
oy.....
alpha: My point is you do not need to be a professional writer to write at the undergraduate level!
If you charge people money for your writing, you are by definition a professional writer. As such, you ought to hold yourself to a higher standard.
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| pheelyks |
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May 28, 11, 06:14PM
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MeoKhan: I imply you'd produce a similar piece of writing for them.
That's not an implication.
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| alpha |
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May 29, 11, 01:37AM
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Pheelyks,
I know this because in my day job as a research scientist I collaborate on and help write peer-reviewed publications and grant applications (professors in research universities are researchers first, teachers second). As a TA in the US I also graded undergraduate papers.
Some are better than others, but even EFL scientists are not that great at writing (even those that teach). However, because such pieces are collaborative, and because proof-readers are employed by journals, the finished piece, depending on the journal, is usually grammatically correct and typo free. Of course an academic essay should be grammatically correct and typo free, however, the structure and content are what really matters.
FYI I do hold myself to higher standards when I am being paid.
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| pheelyks |
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May 29, 11, 08:24AM
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alpha: I know this because in my day job as a research scientist I collaborate on and help write peer-reviewed publications and grant applications (professors in research universities are researchers first, teachers second). As a TA in the US I also graded undergraduate papers.
That doesn't explain how you've managed to successfully assess the writing abilities of every single professor working in your field. Don't make stupid claims and you won't have to waste so much of your time trying (and failing) to explain them.
alpha: FYI I do hold myself to higher standards when I am being paid.
Must.....resist.....yo' mamma joke......
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| editor75 |
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May 29, 11, 10:23AM
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the standards for helping people cheat on their homework are ridiculously low-- hence the proliferation and continued existence of sites like academia-research.com, who hires anyone and everyone. alpha is also correct about a lot of peer reviewed scientific studies being written by scientists, rather than writers.
pheelyks, of course, can't admit that anyone has a point but himself. it's sad, because he's a failed screenwriter who helps kids cheat on their homework for a living... not really a position of much credence or authority irl.
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| pheelyks |
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May 29, 11, 12:28PM
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editor75: because he's a failed screenwriter
Where'd you get that idea?
editor75: hence the proliferation and continued existence of sites like academia-research.com
The standards for cheating customers seeking academic assistance are extremely low, hence the.... yadda yadda yadda
editor75: pheelyks, of course, can't admit that anyone has a point but himself
Plenty of other people have points. Many of their points are wrong, or make incorrect assumptions. Alpha's "point" that he writes "as well as any professor in his field" is almost certainly unfounded, if not incorrect. That was my point. Do you disagree?
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| editor75 |
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May 29, 11, 01:13PM
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I believe that alpha can probably write passable copy for this industry, and that one shouldn't put professors on a pedestal just because of their job titles. and more importantly, I agree that it's ridiculous to point out prescriptive grammar errors on message board posts.
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| pheelyks |
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May 29, 11, 01:30PM
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editor75: I believe that alpha can probably write passable copy for this industry
That has nothing to do with his claim as quoted above.
editor75: one shouldn't put professors on a pedestal just because of their job titles
Nor does this.
editor75: it's ridiculous to point out prescriptive grammar errors
You need to look up "prescriptive grammar" before you start using it in discussion.
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| editor75 |
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Edited by: editor75 May 29, 11, 02:16PM
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prescriptive, as opposed to descriptive. is this ringing a bell, anyone?
academia-research.com doesn't cheat its customers... what it does is (usually) give them ****** copy, which is the status quo. with companies like this, the real shaft is reserved for the writers. I don't think half of the customers even read the research before they hand it in (or cite it in their bibliography, right? haha). the same credo works for so-called legit companies (a huge misnomer, considering the context). there are no standards of quality in this industry, because there is no accountability. writers are not held to anything but arbitrary and basic rules re: their product, and are driven into a quantity over quality equation, if they want to make any real money. calling yourself a professional writer under these circumstances is a dubious claim, at best.
anyway, pheelyks, it's okay; maybe being an internet snoot will fill the void... good luck.
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| pheelyks |
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May 29, 11, 02:40PM
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editor75: prescriptive, as opposed to descriptive. is this ringing a bell, anyone?
I know what it means, but given that the issues of alpha's that I highlighted have nothing to do with the prescriptive/descriptive debate, you clearly need a refresher.
editor75: academia-research.com doesn't cheat its customers
Delivering a product of lower quality than advertised, written by individuals without the qualifications promised, is cheating the customer.
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| Nael |
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Jul 21, 11, 09:45AM
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Yello!
I am a 'general' writer at academia-research.
Just wanted congrats from everyone cos last month I paid $82 fine and this month its $96.
I'm improving, right? :P
I wanted to ask, is premium writer status a hoax or is it real?
Thanks
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| WritersBeware |
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Jul 21, 11, 10:40AM
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You're a writer? Wow.
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| Nael |
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Jul 22, 11, 08:19AM
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Han?
Umm...its very to have the title of writer. Just choose the option in your profile.
Really!
I didn't think people would drop jaws at it!
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