Hi there,

I'm Kendrick, hello all!

New member, but a reader of the forum for a good year and a half.

I'm no longer a student ( a good 20+ years), but reading from you guys/girls, I just gotta ask - do people REALLY hand in stuff that's written by another person and not get caught? I'd think with today's technology that they'd find it pretty quick - unless it really is an original service. If you got caught, don't they kick you out of school and your career is kaput?

Please don't take this question the wrong way - just wanted to know if anyone is willing to share there experiences or how it works - do teachers have special programs to check the work online, or say for a Dissertation, does the library have some huge database they check against? How's it work? I'm convinced it does happen (people hand it stuff not there's, and hey, not judgin' anyone!) but I'd think that's a big risk to take - depends on the School?

Well, thanks if anyone wants to enlighten a mid-life crisis-er. (Joke.) Don't do the LOL thing, or whatever it is. Lucky I can read e-mails now!

They do but you're right, if it's an all-original work then the only way teachers can catch you is if they quiz you on your work.

Wow, that blows my mind!!! OK, not judging anyone, just thought they'd scan it in and search for the words, kinda like a google search??

P.S. The topic? That's NOT what I put, my original topic was "Hello new guy with a question" or very close to that. Is there a reason someone changed my topic? I find that to be a bit infringing on my right's. It's just a question, and I wanted some small details on how it works! Jeez next time I'll go to wikipedia, nice admin board

I would. As long as it is original, like EW Writer said, they won't know.

Welcome to our world. :p

Funny EW-writer! So, you guys trust a writer from company? Do student's have access to check if it's an original somehow? As I read through the board, it looks like a lot of people have trouble speaking English, yet say they are writers... what am I missing?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this. There's an argument to be made that yes, you should do your own work and earn your degree, but then a lot of people just can't find the time, maybe due to family and work and need something very fast. But I don't see how that a site could offer you the copyright to a paper, while on the site in small print, it says you cannot use it unless you quote it (I forgot which site I checked out). So for example, let's say one get's caught by some super-scanning software, however since it's paid for, it's copyrighted - how does that stand up against them taking away (I'd assume) your degree?

I don't understand the question. I'm a writer, not a customer. ^_^

The fact that there are a zillion companies who hire just about anyone. >.<
That's a very good deduction. :) It works out fine so long as the company doesn't make good on its "law-abiding" regulations.

I guess you'll get caught because of the fact that you didn't work on the original paper yourself. :p Even if you argue that you bought the paper including its copyright, buying the copyright doesn't change who wrote the piece, it just changes who can do what with it.

ahhh, gotcha. Thanks EW-Writer. I hope I don't offend anyone by saying that some people here who claim to write have pretty nasty English qualifications in the writing dept.!!!!

Well, in some ways school was always a "business", you have the sports guy's who get breaks because they got the school to the championship's or whatever, the rich people, family tradition of attending the school. I'm sure if some rich family had a kid who cheated, s/he would get a slap on the wrist, as opposed to someone who works their butt off to support a family and didn't find the time to write a small paper.

Sounds about right: that's life!!!

EW_writer, thank you for openly admitting and acknowledging that there are "zillions" of unqualified, ESL writers in the ranks of essay sites.

If it weren't for the handful of honest, North American and British companies that actually abide by their guarantee of hiring only native English writers, the industry would consist of virtually 100% intentionally misrepresented, ESL, unqualified writers.

Blah blah blah blah blah... :D

Don't be mad because I caught you ADMITTING the very thing that you have been denying for months.

I'm not mad. :p I'm just practicing what I preach. :D Just ignore and have fun. ^_^

"Just lie and defraud" is more like it.

Do my clients complain? No. Do I deliver high quality work? Yes. Do I give a rat's ass about what you think? Take a guess. :p

Why don't you post a paper that you have written so that I can point out all of your errors?

Riiiiight.... :p Obviously, I can't post work that I've already sold since that would violate client cofidentiality and I like to keep my clients happy. :) If I post my published work, that would compromise my identity. On top of these two very good reasons is a third one which I just mentioned previously:



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Say... why don't you post some of your work so that I can point out all of YOUR errors? :P

Yes, the usual excuses. You're telling me that you have never written anything for YOURSELF? You don't have a single paper that you wrote for a student who ended up not paying? Give me a break. You won't post anything because you know that I'll embarrass you.


There are no errors in my writing. Hell, I dare you to find one in any of my posts in this forum (when I'm not even paying attention). I have already pointed out numerous errors in your posts. For instance, are you STILL claiming that the period should be placed OUTSIDE of a closing quotation mark?

Tsk tsk...



You can't read so well, can you? :p



Now THAT would be a refreshing turn of events since it's always me who ends up embarrassing you. :)



Yes, I am. I've always found the practice much more logical in many cases although there are some exceptions. :) Do I do the same in my academic writing? Yes. :) has it been the source of ANY complaints from ANY of my clients? Nope. :P



By "numerous", you do mean more than one, right? :P


Let's give her a hand, shall we? :p C'mon folks, look at WB! She NEVER makes any writing errors. Isn't that SOOOOOO COOOOL?!? Being a published writer, she probably saves tons of money from not needing any editors to proofread her work and suggest improvements. :) No sireee.... Why, she's a literal grammar animal!!! RAWRR....

Don't you ever get tired of me kicking your sorry ass all over this place each and every time we have these little chats? :p

LOL, back to the name-calling. As I stated previously, that's all you have left. Where are your FACTS and EVIDENCE?


At no time have you EVER defeated me in ANY argument. Why don't you reference a thread in which you have presented ANY evidence that proves wrong ANYTHING that I have EVER stated?

Ah, so because YOU find it more "logical," that gives you the right to butcher the English language and deliver your PROVEN mistake to customers?