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What is it that repels Americans from ESL writers?
kareng
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 Jun 2, 08, 09:08PM    ¦ #1

I am an ESL writer, and I do not hear anyone complaining of how I write in English (except for WritersBeware, but I think WB can pretty much be excluded from my list, having just called me a CRIMINAL.funny how strong the impact of that word has when somebody else labels you that and he/she doesn't even know you.) So WHAT is wrong, really, with ESL writers? Not all of us are hopelessly pathetic English writers/speakers, you know.

Lavinia
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 Jun 2, 08, 09:11PM    ¦ #2

Don't you work for EW? Why not ask your employers? They apparently don't feel comfortable with your skills as an ESL writer and choose to lie about your background.

WritersBeware
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 Jun 2, 08, 09:42PM    ¦ #3

kareng:
having just called me a CRIMINAL.funny how strong the impact of that word has when somebody else labels you that and he/she doesn't even know you

I don't need to have a beer with you to know that you are a criminal. You ADMITTED it.

WritersBeware
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| Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 2, 08, 09:46PM    ¦ #4

"What is it that repels Americans from ESL writers?"

For the 10,000,000th time, Americans don't have a problem with ESL writers. Americans have a problem with ESL writers who LIE about being "American" and "native English speakers."

Granted, your English is decent, but I could still pick it apart all day. I think that even the most hardened fraud supporters in this forum will agree with me when I state that the vast majority of ESL writers who work for foreign essay companies do not have nearly as good of a grasp of English grammar, verb-subject agreement, punctuation, and general word use.

Bottom line: don't lie to the public, and you won't have a problem with me.

strugglingstudent
Reg: Mar 6, 08
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 Jun 3, 08, 11:42PM    ¦ #5

WritersBeware:
Bottom line: don't lie to the public, and you won't have a problem with me.


So basically IF all the writing companies declared their true location and IF they all declared that they employ writers from all over the world then you would not have a problem with them providing essays for anyone willing to use them even if their workload was unaffected by their declaration or actually increased as a result of it, is that correct?

WritersBeware
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 Jun 4, 08, 01:13AM    ¦ #6

strugglingstudent:
So basically IF all the writing companies declared their true location and IF they all declared that they employ writers from all over the world then you would not have a problem with them providing essays for anyone willing to use them even if their workload was unaffected by their declaration or actually increased as a result of it, is that correct?

What?

strugglingstudent
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 Jun 4, 08, 01:10PM    ¦ #7

WritersBeware:
What?

I think the message I wrote is quite clear. You stated that IF they don't lie to the public then they won't have a problem with you, so what I am asking is does this mean that IF the likes of essaywriters.net and masterpapers.com were to admit their true location AND admit that they use ESL writers as well as writers who are EFL writers then you would not have a problem with them doing work for American students etc even if their declaration of location ACTUALLY increased their workload or did not reduce their workload.

WritersBeware
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 Jun 4, 08, 02:00PM    ¦ #8

strugglingstudent:
I think the message I wrote is quite clear.

No, it wasn't. It was late, and I didn't feel like deciphering a 62-word sentence.

strugglingstudent:
IF the likes of essaywriters.net and masterpapers.com were to admit their true location AND admit that they use ESL writers as well as writers who are EFL writers then you would not have a problem with them doing work for American students etc even if their declaration of location ACTUALLY increased their workload or did not reduce their workload[?]

Yes, that's correct.

SolidSnake
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 Jun 4, 08, 08:55PM    ¦ #9

WritersBeware:
No, it wasn't. It was late, and I didn't feel like deciphering a 62-word sentence.


...but yet you do feel like trolling through her post and actually counting every word. lol somebody is bored during the dry season me thinks

WritersBeware
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 Jun 4, 08, 09:13PM    ¦ #10

I mean, come on . . . would you want to bother reading the following sentence when dead tired at 1:30 AM?

strugglingstudent:
So basically IF all the writing companies declared their true location and IF they all declared that they employ writers from all over the world then you would not have a problem with them providing essays for anyone willing to use them even if their workload was unaffected by their declaration or actually increased as a result of it, is that correct?


By the way, it takes about 5 seconds to get a word count in any word processor, which I did only AFTER he claimed that his post was an easy read.

SolidSnake
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 Jun 4, 08, 09:22PM    ¦ #11

WritersBeware:
mean, come on . . . would you want to bother reading the following sentence when dead tired at 1:30 AM?


Fair point. To be fair I didnt even bother reading past the first few words.


WritersBeware:
By the way, it takes about 5 seconds to get a word count in any word processor, which I did only AFTER he claimed that his post was an easy read.


Didn't realise SS was a 'he'. His/her posts seem rather girly. No offense.

strugglingstudent
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 Jun 5, 08, 02:21PM    ¦ #12

WritersBeware:
By the way, it takes about 5 seconds to get a word count in any word processor, which I did only AFTER he claimed that his post was an easy read.


What on earth makes you think I am a man? When have I ever said that i was male. In fact I do remember stating that I returned to work after having my son.

SS I guess my posts ought to be girly since that is exactly what I am :)

WritersBeware
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 Jun 5, 08, 03:52PM    ¦ #13

strugglingstudent:
What on earth makes you think I am a man? When have I ever said that i was male. In fact I do remember stating that I returned to work after having my son.

I don't really care what sort of junk you're packing.

strugglingstudent
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 Jun 5, 08, 11:45PM    ¦ #14

WritersBeware:
I don't really care what sort of junk you're packing.


Neither do I but just wanted to correct your misconception!

WritersBeware
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 Jun 5, 08, 11:52PM    ¦ #15

It wasn't a "misconception." I use "he" and "she" randomly and interchangeably when I do not know, recall, find irrelevant, or give a second thought about someone's gender. You're acting as if I typed, "strugglingstudent has a pen-is."

strugglingstudent
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 Jun 6, 08, 01:11PM    ¦ #16

WritersBeware:
give a second thought about someone's gender



As one bloke to another I don't give a toss lol

summer61
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 Jun 6, 08, 01:29PM    ¦ #17

I stumbled upon this website/forum the other night while attempting to verify the legitimacy of a custompapers.com. I have just submitted a 12 page paper request to them with a deadline of June 8th. I'm crossing my fingers that they deliver. I have been burned by (CustomResearchPapers.us) and ended up writing my own paper within 24 hrs, missed the deadline and got my grade docked by 1/3. Yes, they advertised they were a US company and even had short resumes of their writers on their website. However, the paper given to me had so many misspellngs, grammar errors and quotes that were cut and paste from the reference materials I supplied them, but no citation. They completely missed the subject topic and missed my deadline by 24 hrs. Yes, they offered to re-write, which I allowed them to do and the paper still contained the same errors as before. I was offered another writer but by that time it was too late and I did not want to take another chance of another paper filled with errors.

In moving forward, how can you tell if some of the post in this forum are not the very individuals that work for some of these companies?

Does anyone have any current experience with custompapers.com?

Lavinia
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 Jun 6, 08, 01:34PM    ¦ #18

summer61 - there is a search function on the right top side of this forum. If you type in custompapers.com, you should get a lot of hits.

WritersBeware
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 Jun 6, 08, 01:35PM    ¦ #19

summer61, thanks for posting irrelevant information in this thread.

summer61
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 Jun 6, 08, 01:39PM    ¦ #20

My bad. I thought I had selected essay services. First time user. Hope it did not upset your world too much. =(

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