Admin, I think that the EssayScam.org forum is in serious need of higher standards. As far as I am concerned, there is no place in this forum for accusations that are not accompanied by PROOF. This forum has become a virtually unchecked sounding board for the many liars, cheaters, and crooks who desparately want to discredit my regular stream of verifiable evidence against their immoral and often illegal operations.

I guestimate that at least half of the posts in this entire forum are by representatives of EssayWriters.net (and other fraudulent companies) who post nothing but complete lies and false accusations about my affiliations, physical appearance, and personal character. There is no line that these propagandistic charlatans will not cross in their pathetic, single-minded mission to discredit the verifiable evidence that I provide against their fraudulent websites for the public good.

With these facts in mind, I'm sure that all of the responsible members of this forum would appreciate it if you would amend the TOS to warn about disciplinary actions against ANY member (including me) who posts accusations that he/she does not immediately accompany with verifiable evidence from independant, trustworthy sources (that have not been produced by the poster or his/her associates). Here is an example of such disciplinary actions:

1st offense = Post(s) deleted, and preliminary warning to member
2nd offense = Post(s) deleted, and final warning to member
3rd offense = Post(s) deleted, and member's username/IP banned

Admin, this forum has no credibility unless you force people to provide verifiable evidence from independant, trustworthy sources. Once this warning is part of the TOS, members can immediately report baseless accusations for your review.

Thank you

I think people who threaten people over the forum and flame people should be removed immediately. I'd start with that Joey punk.

the collective IQ of the readers of this board would increase by at least one standard deviation through the implementation of fae's suggestion.

O.o... This post is a real gem. You should keep from using words that you don't understand. Would you like me to translate your sad use of statistical terms in plain language? I bet even you would find it funny. :D

i suppose you could try, but i strongly suggest you rethink your threat to avoid getting squished once again. like when you tried to claim knowledge of logic and the ad hominem.

i'll give you a hint before you post, however. the term "standard deviation" means something quite specific in the context of IQ. so if your intent is to ONLY focus upon the general term and not its contextual use, don't bother. we all know grasping context isn't one of your strengths already.

Indeed.

What a nice excuse. :p Standard deviation is a measure of variation. When you say "x differs by one standard deviation say s", it means that the values range between x-s and x+s. Therefore when you say:



What you actually said was:

The collective IQ of the readers of this board would vary by one standard deviation.

Standard deviation doesn't "increase" scores. It just makes them more variable meaning that a random selection can be both higher or lower than originally expected.

Standard Deviation is of course different from IQ deviation. :D

You can check out this site for the difference. :p

IQ Basics



Dream on. :)

what a lie. you are such a con artist that you're incapable of posting anything truthful. your link NO WHERE says "IQ deviation," period. it does, however, explain my usage of "standard deviation" rather nicely.

from the post that you link:

"It compares people of the same age or age category and assumes that IQ is normally distributed, that the average (mean) is 100 and that the standard deviation is something like 15 (IQ tests sometimes differ in their standard deviations).

What is a standard deviation (SD)? Simply put, the standard deviation is a measure of the spread of the sample from the mean. As a rule of thumb, about 2/3 of a sample is within 1 standard deviation from the mean. About 95% of the sample will be within 2 standard deviations from the mean (3).
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thank you for the link, saved me the time of having to find evidence. standard deviation in the context of IQ is roughly 15 points. hence, joey leaving this forum would increase the average IQ of all the forum's combined readers by 15 points. yes, my post contended that his IQ is so ridiculously low that it could impact the mean in such a clear manner. there, you got me to explain my put down so that even joey will understand. seriously, is he your brother or something that you always feel a need to interject to semi-defend the sexist moron?

i realize that my sense of humor requires a bit more cognitive ability than calling someone a "donkey" but do try to keep up. my usage of standard deviation was 100% correct. and you, once again, prove yourself a poser.

EW_writer, is "Cavemen" your favorite show?

Isn't it humilating to be proven wrong by your OWN example? Ouch!

From the site:



I didn't lie about anything. Read the site again. Oh I get what you wanted it to mean, but using "standard deviation" in that way doesn't make your statement mean what you want it to.

What you want to say is that if joey didn't post anymore, we'd have to take out his IQ score therefore decreasing the overall average of IQ scores. Assuming that joey's score is incredibly low (which I doubt), then what you wanted to say was this:

The average IQ of the readers of this board would increase by x points.

You see? That's what you wanted your statement to mean, right? You just wanted to be able to say it in a more should we say "sophisticated" manner. The problem is that your misuse of a word that you don't quite understand made your statement sound confusing and made it mean nonsensical. I do hope that you don't write in this manner for your customers.

Furthermore, if joey's score is very low (or very high for that matter) as you contend it, taking out his score would actually decrease the variability by a fraction of the standard deviation. >.<

There was no "misuse." You simply did not grasp the "sophisticated" manner is which Lavinia communicated.

This is your attempt to weasel your way out of yet another painfully embarassing loss.

By the way, feel free to invite all of your ESL buddies from PinoyPenster to bring their racist propaganda to this AMERICAN forum. We'll be glad to introduce them to basic logic and morality if they insist on defending the FRAUD of the Filipino charlatans at AccessEssays.com.

to EW:
um no. the standard deviation for IQ is determined by the entire population, not by the subset that is this forum's readers.

let's use an example:

let's say EW's IQ is 71. EW gets a colectomy and an unexpected result of the operation is that EW's IQ shoots up 20 points. it would be entirely correct to explain that EW's IQ has miraculously increased from two standard deviations below normal to a bit less than one standard deviation below normal.

if we all just called each other donkeys, the world would be a less interesting place.

Tsk tsk... the entire population of what? You do know that the term population deviation is used when dealing with the theoretical deviation of the entire population while standard deviation or sd is used for subsets of the population, right? ^_^

The thing is, any statistician would know that I'm right. You just want to have the last say. Well, you can have it. :)



Awww... lil monkey of "general statistics" has to sit on the sideline coz she got no idea what we're talking about? *pity, pity*:D

um, no. i honestly can't tell anymore if you are just making things up or are just very confused. in any case, there is a sample standard deviation and a population standard deviation. frankly, either way works for my comment. my statement could be read to mean that the mean of the readership will increase by a sample standard deviation (x, based on the sample) or a population standard deviation (15).

either definition makes my point, that "joey is teh dumE."

this has just gotten stupid. quote a statistician who contextually agrees with you or just stop posting already.

Good luck, Lavinia. This cretin has NEVER provided legitimate evidence to support any of his accusations. All he does is throw out unsubstantiated claims, which is probably what he does in all of the rip-off papers that he "writes."

A person is either honest, or he/she is not. We will never change this crook's outlook on morality.

Hi,

I think Lavinia, you meant the standard deviation of this forum would lower if Joey (assuming that his IQ is super low; while the rest of those who post here are of the same level) will be banned. SD as you've written "is a measure of the spread of the sample from the mean." Taking out an extreme score from the sample would lessen the sd, not increase it. By the way, I'm studying for a masters degree in Math.

i did not comment on how the size of the SD would be impacted, except when later explaining the standard deviation that is determined by the typical IQ tests (like, for example, Wechlser, where sigma = 15). you are familiar with IQ tests? you understand that they have a designated standard deviation that is used to group, categorize, and describe IQ scores? you understand that the standard deviation of an IQ test does not actually change depending upon the score of one individual?

reread my original statement to see that i was referencing a change in the mean of the readers, not the SD itself.

here it is:



see the word BY in that sentence. it's pretty important. i can understand how for some folks, the translation may be difficult or seem strange, but that doesn't mean that my usage was incorrect.

now, for your other things:



i would NEVER assume that the IQ of the readers of this board are the same level. i am quite convinced that is NOT the case. nor does my statement suggest that. the mean is only the average IQ of the readers. if you are getting a math degree, you should know that. my comment was simply that the mean would skyrocket upon joey's ban. of course, after some of the responses to my post, maybe that isn't quite as true as i'd originally thought. and you do understand that my comment was just a joke right? funny, haha. in fact, much of what i'm writing now is tongue-in-cheek.



context is a problem for you. and translation. my discussion is quite specific to the IQ scoring system and the use of SD in that context. and i didn't comment on the size of the SD but the change in the mean that would be the equivalent of a minimum of one SD. see my explanation above.



that's nice. where are you earning your degree? where did you earn your undergraduate degree? have you published anything related to standard deviations and/or IQ? i assume that you will face word problems during your studies. comprehension can play a big role in the determination of the appropriate math functions.

and this is your first time posting on the forum. what a coincidence! amazing really.

Are you really serious? Ha ha ha. I wonder who gave you that idea. SPECIFIC IN THE CONTEX OF IQ. What a nice way to show how knowledgeable you are. Where did you get your degree (IF YOU HAVE ONE)?. And please go back to your math professors and ask them again if standard deviation was formulated specifically for IQ measurement.

Maybe you are indeed familiar with IQ measurements but please never say that "standard deviation" means something quite specific in the context of IQ. Before I'll get to waste time talking about a subject I have taught in a university (yes, I was teaching statistics for three years), go ask real university professors what indeed is a standard deviation. I am amazed at that statement, really.

And to actually say that standard deviation "is determined by the entire population, not by the subset that is this forum's readers." Wow, such ignorance, Lavinia. Standard deviation is taken from a sample, believe me, I know that for a fact. If you want a computation that involves the entire population, there's another one for that. But I won't tell you. You have to figure that out for yourself. Or better yet, go ask MATH PROFESSORS before you start defending your statement.

And about my undergrad degree? From one of Asia's top 10 universities. Hint, it's in Japan. But of course, a degree from a Japanese University doesn't count for anything since it's not in America, right?

Oh well, life's like that.

Oh, and now you've restated your position. How nice, Lavinia. That's not what you originally stated. See what I quoted above.

For Lavinia: You see, your writing style needs improvement. The way you state your position is confusing, not a very good way to go into debate. You write this, but you mean this. Won't do at all. Tsk.