Being an online customer myself, I know there are companies that just don't get it - they won't reply to emails or phone calls even though they were at fault. I understand the frustration of some clients (not only students) - they need to have a way to vent.

If you refer to the company mentioned here that doesn't pay their writers (on time or at all) and still think dozens of complaints [some of which contain balance sheet] are not credible - well, it's your opinion. But to me it seems most (if not all) complaints don't have any hidden intentions.

Your previous post---"Fully agree with that. Whoever reads blogs or forums should keep in mind the information may not be 100% true."


Consistency, pls.

Read the posts--a few posters admitted that they were charged with inferior quality papers. Not YET paid the fees SUBJECT to resolution of the issue.
Complaints of students quite credible to me especially when the company replies and resolves the dispute.

But what about Indians milking goats? respectful? a complaint?

What about public opinions about the president being a m*oron or a chimp? Should they put such posters in jail?



They were charged by who? The party that is responsible for payment? I cannot find a post stating that the writer admitted s/he wrote a poor paper and that was the reason s/he hasn't been paid. In this case you only believe one story and you suggest me to be objective and listen to the two parties? :)



What if the companies doesn't care? I bet most of them frequent this forum and are aware of the complaints, but only a few bother to respond to the complaint.

Well according to essaytown.com/essayfraud if any website is not disclosing its physical location, then its fraud :)

Well, it's a big warning sign of possible fraud (why a serious business would be afraid to disclose its physical location), but it's not automatically a proof by itself, I think.

Xactly. These are double standards adopted by essaytown.com. They are bashing at other sites for not disclosing their Indian, Pakistani or other address and at the same time they too are hiding their actual location.

Why do you focus on essaytown? The other sites have the right to do the same if they like.

Huh? There are accusing others of something which they themseleves are doing! Students/customsd need to know that essaytown.com too is unethical website (just like all sites with no real location address)

At both forums no one is allowed to talk about it freely. Posts/threads disappear!

This fourm is little bit better than other, atleast we can talk about essaytown till some extent here.

At essayfraud.org its forbidden to talk about essaytown.com :) Thread will be deleted in no time by *aheem* *aheem* :D

It is his prerogative to file subject to judicial precedents on libel and public figure. Not comparable in this case.
If I subscribe to what you suggest then anyone can defame, libel and slander another. Why don't you start amending the laws.

have you heard of company policies, breach thereof, due process, administrative investigation, resolution of dispute?
have you heard of collection cases in court ?
Logic--who can withhold payment except the one who has the money and the one who is to pay under certain conditions.

Do your homework.

purely speculative.

So you claim some of the posts don't contain specific information and thus cannot be considered legit. You may want to read this:



injury-law.freeadvice.com/libel_and_slander/express_opinion.htm

Let me summerize. You think that:

1. A customer doesn't have a right to express their opinion about the received service (unless it's a positive opinion).

2. An employee (in this case freelance contract writer) doesn't have a right to express their opinion about their employer if they don't pay them on time or don't pay at all.

Frankly, I wouldn't like to live in your world... I like democracy :).

It is what YOU think not me--our measures grow apart. As far as I am concerned I do not wish to argue with those who are ill-informed and interpret the laws based on their liking and affiliations. Have you heard of expressing facts based on personal knowledge?? Try to analyse and research a bit more.
I call your conjured kind of world --a jungle :-) so suit yourself.
BTW, it is summarize

I'm not a lawyer - I'm just stating what makes sense to me. I believe in being reasonable and have lived in the US long enough to be able to recognize sensible versus non-sensible actions. Your ideas may be applied to a world-wide, big corporations, but as far as ordering an essay or writing as a contract freelance writer the rules are much more reasonable and straightforward.

You are putting words into my mouth and venturing on 'what I think' when you have twisted what I have posted.


laws have territorial application so do not try to tell me that contract laws for essay writing are different.

We are not even talking about contractual relationship here. Read all the posts again.
Posters can bash and slander a number of essay sites but not the few protected 'sacred cows.' Different rules apply you can speculate and generalize against the not 'favored sites' and always get away with it even if it contains defamatory remarks but if you try to tinker with the sacred cows--posts get edited based on speculation.
If one dares post against the scared cow/s, some posters would gang on you and demand proof. A different standard of conduct applies anent 'bashed sites' --you can bash and slander and generalize all one can without fear of the application of the terms of use.
Writers of these bashed sites who dare post that they have been paid their fees would readily be labelled as company reps.
You can express an opinion if it is against the bashed sites but if it is something favorable to them--one should dare not speak. Talk about your democracy?
All in the name of unfair competition ?--read the Lanham Act and FTC.
The owner of the 'consumer'site alluded to earlier is being hunted down by the FBI perhaps you can research and learn more about how the court ruled in that case. Freedom of speech is not absolute.
With freedom of speech, comes responsibility and if it's exercise is tainted by other considerations --it is a different matter.
I am sure tides will turn and when the time comes--everyone will be required to face up to that responsibility and be held liable for its consequences.
When that time comes--everything relevant to the cause/s of action will be subjected to careful scrutiny by an independent and objective tribunal--registration papers, memberships, funding, addresses, considerations, interests . . .uniform application of terms of use, etc.
A few may have been identified already and perhaps the company/ies would choose to exercise their prerogative to deal with 'exaggerations' and defamatory remarks in court.
Perhaps, I do know more than what you think.

You referred to the 'disclaimer' . . .in the same light I would suggest to you that you revisit the AUP-Acceptable Use Policy of the web host company Re: Offensive Content
"is unfair or deceptive under the consumer protection laws of any jurisdiction, including chain letters and pyramid schemes;
is defamatory or violates a person's privacy;
creates a risk to a person's safety or health, creates a risk to public safety or health, compromises national security, or interferes with a investigation by law enforcement;
clearly infringes on another person's trade or service mark, patent, or other property right;
is otherwise malicious, fraudulent, or may result in retaliation against XX by offended viewers"
Violation of the terms of AUP can result in suspension or termination of the TOS-Terms of Service.
I think, one of the posters here mentioned that when an account is suspended--it means you failed to pay, you exceeded the limit or you violated the terms of use agreement or a combination thereof.
ciao and enjoy yourselves.

RE: opinion

Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co. 497 U.S. 1 (1990).
Court held that there is no constitutional distinction between fact and opinion, hence no "wholesale defamation exemption" for any statement that can be labeled "opinion."

Now we have 2007. In 1990 hardly anybody knew what the Internet and forums/blogs were. Since then the law has changed. It seems you only take the information from written sources and I even doubt you are based in the US; if you were, you'd have a chance to listen to some other independent news and read newspapers.

The law has not changed. The case cited is jurisprudence--a legal precedent. It has not been overturned yet by the high court. It is found in the U.S. Constitution Annotated. U.S. Supreme Court is tasked to interpret the Constitution--there are a lot of cases reiterating the dictum.


--not mere written sources--authoritative jurisprudence and the laws.
Not hearsay--not self-serving.



Where I am based is irrelevant and immaterial--knowledge, expertise, experience, skills . . do not have any territorial boundaries.
The mind has no limits--it is never limited by the size of the skull--to believe otherwise, would be to live a life of ignorance.

dialectical reasoning, Major.



U.S. is not the only country that has news on media. News reports refer to events but they never can substitute for the interpretation and implementation of legal precepts for order in a society of civilized men.

You see, with knowledge, expertise and skills that can serve as passport to everywhere.

news--for information
jurisprudence and laws--for peace and order in a society. Authoritative and binding--used to defend rights and prosecute causes of action.

Has anyone else noticed that Timmy hasn't given even one fact here? Everything is pure speculation. It's pretty clear to me that Timmy works for someone who doesn't like essaytown very much, or Timmy owns a competing site himself. At least other posters here provide some evidence if they make strong accusations.

What about your posts?

Look up the meaning of speculation and while you are at it—look up the meaning of detractor too. It is one of those labels you gave a poster here.

What do you know about evidence?




----argumentum ad hominem, a fallacy of logical reasoning.

Enjoy your 'reviews'

Hey smartass, I don't need to look anything up. Do you think you are intelligent because you can type Latin phrases? Give me a break.

Show me ONE claim that I have made that isn't verifiable as fact.