i have read from a web post that essayscam.org, as well as essayfraud.org are fronts of other freelancing companies as means to "negatively advertise" other companies in direct competition with them..

is this true or not?

So am I to assume you signed up here as essayscam or essayfraud representative and have posted 12 messages (so far) to "negatively advertise other companies"?

As far as I can tell quite a few freelance writers or dissatisfied clients received their money or better customer service thanks to messages posted on this site...

nah! im just asking.. plain and simple..

the least you can do is post yes or no..

It does seem a tad suspicious that there seems to be a core of posters on both sites who not only have the same sentence structure and verbiage but the same message too... Essay writing is a highly competitive industry... it wouldn't surprise me... but I can't say for sure. I would suggest using other means for researching if a site is a scam or not.

The other message forum's account has been suspended for some time now?? Reminds me of the court . . .

essayfraud.org is owned by *********!

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No speculations please.
Admin

yeah, I have heard that. ...been the talk in the essay writing industry. But one or some of the members here would not agree with you (like in the last time). The most that they can do is remind you or threaten you with a court case. I just wonder if this is pursued--how would the complaint read when it describes--party plaintiff? something like a . . . a duly registered 'profitless' organization or like this message forum--a non-profit organization. . . then if it is duly registered--members and funding will be out in the open....that is IF it is registered. I heard that the laws require registration of non profit organizations...i just wonder if . . .

Admin, if you be more thorough--there are a lot of speculations here--such as when Writers Beware said that unqualified writers are taken in by essaywriters.net as this is a custom? Unless of course Writers Boo is the HR of that company.

OR when PS2 listed the scam sites as bestessays, essaywriters.net etc. when obviously based on her previous postings--she was/is a writer of essaywriters.net. How come she can include the other companies unless she also worked for them.

@Admin

Its not a speculation, we all know who owns essayfraud.org.

If you call this speculation, then every post on this site falls under this category.

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The purpose of both sites is to help students, essay writing companies, and writers to meet their goals.

Taking the cudgel for the other site too? I agree that is supposed to be the purpose yet you have a hundred of posts here which contain defamatory remarks against people and companies, i.e. people were called criminals, scammers, Indians were asked to milk goats, posters were accused of being company reps or being paid to defend the bashed companies WITHOUT PROOF OR NOT EVEN BASED ON A DETAILED EXPERIENCE---that notwithstanding--this forum only chose to exercise its prerogative in editing and deleting that one company name based on speculation?

. . .a noble purpose.

nom_de_plume,

It seems you don't know what the freedom of speech is all about. Read the disclaimer below - all posts are OPINIONS, not "facts." Do you suggest to close all Internet forums because someone accuses a company or another person of something?

I understand why this site doesn't want to "fight" against the other site.

Regarding "criminals and scammers," such words were used by a national newspaper (CNN as I recall) - should they close CNN too?

"The purpose of both sites is to help students, essay writing companies, and writers to meet their goals."

Yeah right!


Then how come posts about essaytown.com keep disappearing?

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To prevent some posters to publicly fight against each other and post irrelevant and repetitive information.

Admin

Freedom of speech--sorry I do not intend to give charity lectures. With freedom comes responsibility. Maybe you can read the post again.

USA Today issues warning that bloggers are inaccurate forms of information.
District Judge after investigation found: the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff.

Read the terms of use on respect--read the first page of the site on slander. Please do not let me define defamation, libel, slander and opinion...

Do not take it out of context--I was talking abt the exercise of Admin.'s prerogative.

I am hoping for an investigation or that the investigation is terminated. Who knows the bashed companies may be banding together to file class suit like that which was done in another message forum--but that has a different twist--RICO.

Fully agree with that. Whoever reads blogs or forums should keep in mind the information may not be 100% true.

But would you suggest that each and every message should be pre-moderated and investigated by a team of researchers and lawyers before making them to the public?

Any more info on that? Do you suggest the other forum is down because of "class suit"? It seems to me they just forgot to pay for hosting or were over-quota...

not necessary when posters are true and responsible and not when they are motivated by other interests. Courts come in to read their 'designed plan'
Taking it out of context: I maintain that the issue is the Admin's exercise of prerogative to delete and edit in one case but not in others which obviously are even defamatory.


I am not suggesting anything--res ipsa loquitur--I said (xx) I know that you are a part of the other forum as well--I would not dare hurt your feelings.

Auf Wiedersehen! I have better things to do.

"To prevent some posters to publicly fight against each other and post irrelevant and repetitive information."

Then why dont you delete other threads where owners of other sites argue with Amy/WritersBeware about their sites? Why just Essaytown.com or Essayfraud.org threads/posts?

As far as I am conerned essaytown.com too is fraud as they dont disclose their American address on website. (according to them they are "based" in USA)

If someone is able to determine the poster's true intentions, s/he should be awarded with the Nobel Prize.

If you think a company is "fraud" just because they aren't based in the US or don't disclose their postal address, you're wrong, I think.

facts, evidence, funding, registration, acts done in pursuance of a goal, etc Some of the posts here are just conclusions--a company is a scam simply because they have not paid yet your fees? Well, what about when you are charged with inferior quality paper? Has earnest efforts been done to settle the issue with the company--etc.
A complaint is credible if it contains the details and has specificity of facts and of incidents.
again intention? as I have said for instance --the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff.------------is this not evidence enough of intention?
partiality--conduct to protect a few and conduct to encourage bashing of others
There are technical ways to detect--ask law enforcement.
Ciao!