| Idi Amin |
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Oct 15, 09, 11:29PM
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Hey I have a question, any help?
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 15, 09, 11:34PM
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I don't know how to start a new thread, and I am worried. I submitted some work in, that I basically did for another class, but I remixed it a little, however I used the same sources and the ideas are the same, but most of the words have been changed, however, there is one paragraph out of 8 pages that I copied word for word, but it is my work. Question. If the university used data bases to check for this stuff do I have to be worried if I handed in a hard copy form essay?
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 15, 09, 11:59PM
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Justify your human rights violations, and then we'll talk.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:02AM
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Lol, idi amin is my nickname nothing more. Anyways, I am concerned man, I never even thought of it until I had already handed it in.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:08AM
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Would really appreciate some advice bro. The last time I handed the similar work in I only gave a hard copy and the teacher marked it within a week. Is there a possibility that it could have been scanned into a database like turnitin, or is an electronic copy needed for that?
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 16, 09, 12:10AM
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If your previous paper was scanned, you're pretty much screwed.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:13AM
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How do they scan it, and how do I know if it has been scanned?
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| rustyironchains |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:17AM
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I don't think you can get in legal trouble for this, but you should fail the paper.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:18AM
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Chances are, if you didn't submit it electronically it wasn't scanned. that's no guarantee, though. You'll find out soon enough, I suppose.
My guess would be (and I have no basis for this other than my own conjecture) that you won't get in as much trouble because you at least used your own work, but that's entirely up to your school's policy.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:23AM
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Ok the thing was I took a course last year, and there were about 50 students in the class, and the teacher only accepted hard copy essays and returned them in 7 days. Would she really have time to scan all these papers, mark them and hand them backk in a week. Also what is the process of scanning the paper, and how long does it usually take if in hard copy form. Also then do they archive it? Help!
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:45AM
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This is bothering me a bit, any answers please. I know some of you are real smart guys.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 12:51AM
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Sorry for being a nuisance, but what I want to know is if in order for them to detect me using the same sources and main ideas again in another paper, does that mean A) the first teacher I handed it in to had to type it out all over again since I handed it in in hard copy form, or B) they have machines that scan the work, and make it machine readable that then archives it?
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 16, 09, 12:52AM
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Idi Amin: the teacher only accepted hard copy essays
Zero worries. No way in hell the teacher manually scanned every page of every paper, converted each OCR scan to .doc format, and then submitted to Turnitin. (Even if he/she were crazy enough to attempt such a task, OCR technology is still fairly inaccurate and he/she could never justify using that unreliable technology as part of a grading system. He/she would be exposing the institution to serious legal problems.)
Have a beer.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 01:40AM
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Man, I hope yo are right. I am worried though. I hope it isn't in a data base, I wish there was a way I could check.
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| johnsmith |
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Oct 16, 09, 02:14AM
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You're safe. Totally safe.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 02:52PM
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Anybody know what the chances are that teachers scan papers into a data base if it is a hard copy? Also how long does the process usually take?
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 16, 09, 03:18PM
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You already received a clear and definitive answer.
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| Idi Amin |
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Oct 16, 09, 03:41PM
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Sorry about being repetitive bro, and I think I worded that a little off. What I meant to say is what are the chances that professors use the various data bases, as in is it something they do all the time, are required to do by the institution, or just do when they feel like it. Thanks a lot for the re-assurance though brother.
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 16, 09, 03:49PM
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It's not a matter of "chances." It's a matter of your particular professor's practices. If you don't know those practices, you can't expect anyone here to know.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 16, 09, 04:05PM
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too bad chacha got kicked of; he always claimed to be clairvoyant.
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 16, 09, 06:21PM
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I'm still trying to come to grips with chacha's level of stupidity.
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| God |
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Oct 17, 09, 01:50PM
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WritersBeware: I'm still trying to come to grips with chacha's level of stupidity.
Me too!
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| WRT |
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Oct 17, 09, 02:32PM
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WritersBeware: I'm still trying to come to grips with chacha's level of stupidity
Best thing is that he believes he makes sense.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 17, 09, 02:33PM
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Is that the all powerful admitting to a mistake?
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| WRT |
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Oct 17, 09, 02:33PM
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Idi Amin: idi amin is my nickname
A very disturbing statement. Do you, by any chance, remind people of him - hence, the nickname?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 19, 09, 07:14PM
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If professors really care that much about using turnitin, they just insist on a file. I highly doubt anybody intending to use turnitin would accept hard copy papers in the first place; they'd at least ask for an accompanying file in one format or another. I'm sure reusing your own work violates honor codes, but it's probably a much less serious offense than submitting other's work as your own.
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| Alex20 |
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Nov 6, 09, 05:14AM
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Good point. Must be a minor essay, otherwise you would have submitted a file.
I guess the absence of any response from the TS indicates a happy end.
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