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saloo81   Dec 2, 08, 06:28PM | #1
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Dear Frnds,
Its my sincere advice to you all that dont rely to any plagiarism software like "Turnitin".The reason is that when you put your report on the software 1st time it detect the plagiarism (if it) and store it in its database and when you try next time after paraphrasing it definitely shows the 100% plagiarism or the same percentage which it shows 1st time.so plz dont rely on it othrewise you will get bigger suffer.
the process for checking plagiarism is lengthy but you have to attempt it .

1. analyse your report on "articlechecekr.com" (its free but authentic)
2. analyse your report on "plagiarismdetect.com" (its free but authentic)
3. the Highlight those portion with "bold" and underline"
4. check the remaining portion manually at "Google"
5. you have complete "plagiarised data" of your report.
6. then Re-Write or paraphrase it and then again use the same process.

this is the only process in which you away from the plagiarism report and submit unplagiarised report.

If you are not able to go for this process,kindly contact me and avail my sincere service at very competitive rates with high quality work.
FreelanceWriter Writer   Dec 2, 08, 07:10PM | #2
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I'd also like to recommend a useful website:

TranslateMyPigeonEnglishIntoTheEnglishLanguage.com
saloo81   Dec 2, 08, 07:12PM | #3
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Dear Frnd,
is not working now.
WritersBeware   Dec 2, 08, 10:15PM | #4
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FreelanceWriter:
Dear Frnd,
is not working now.

FW, this is CLASSIC!
NeverMind   Dec 5, 08, 06:35AM | #5
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(my very sincere apologies to both FW and WB for what I'm about to do. This is funny as, but might as well explain)

Saloo81: that was not a real website. FreelanceWriter was trying to tell you that your English is... erm, Pidgin English. That means it's broken and no matter how many big words you use (or because of that), your sentences don't sound natural in the least. You may be a highly educated non-native speaker, but what you write will sound terribly odd to people from the US, UK, Canada, NZ, Oz and so on.


(No offence meant, I'm not a native speaker of English either ^^)
alice   Dec 8, 08, 01:44AM | #6
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I think copyscape & mydropbox is good for detection and as far as I know they don't store any data
humble   Feb 28, 09, 05:54PM | #7
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Oh this thread reminds me something. DO NOT trust any Plagiarism Detection without investigation. As far as my experience with turnitin is concerned it stores the essay with the name of the person who scanned it. And it allows making changes and does not show it as plagiarized if it is scanned by the same person.

Just do original work (there is no alternate to that) these tools are for cheaters.

And there is a great risk in using these unknown tools. I suspect that these tools could be used by fraudulent companies for collecting (stealing) papers.

and if there is a dire need to check plagiarism, use Google.
han11   Oct 9, 10, 09:32AM | #8
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Merged topic:
Checking essays for plagiarism - is it advisable?

Hi, is it advisable that once your have your essay written that you have it checked for plagiarism, even though the company has said this is something that they do.

Is it worth me buying the turnitin program to ensure that work is not plagiarist.
rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 9, 10, 10:12AM | #9
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FreelanceWriter:
TranslateMyPigeonEnglishIntoTheEnglishLanguage.com


pigeon, lol. it's "pidgin..." and how's your English?
forumregulator   Oct 9, 10, 11:32AM | #10
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han11:
turnitin program

Turnitin stores your paper in its database so that if your professor tries to check it for plagiarism it will turnout 100% plagiarized. You could try other programs such as dustball or copyscape although they may not be as thorough as turnitin. But ensure you always check essays you receive for plagiarism.
FreelanceWriter Writer   Oct 9, 10, 07:02PM | #11
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forumregulator:
Turnitin stores your paper in its database so that if your professor tries to check it for plagiarism it will turnout 100% plagiarized. You could try other programs such as dustball or copyscape although they may not be as thorough as turnitin. But ensure you always check essays you receive for plagiarism.


I've never seen any anti-plagiarism program in action, but I'd imagine that you could just print or store the initial dated report from the first submission by the student in case you ever need to prove it to anybody later.

rustyironchains:
pigeon, lol. it's "pidgin..." and how's your English?


Unlike some people here, I can admit to an occasional mistake: I've never seen the word in print and never thought about it. As far as our respective English writing skills go, we both work for one of the same essay companies on whose board multiple specific requests for Pheelyks and me appear almost daily. Meanwhile, I've never seen even a single request for you on the board, ever. The company also sends me internal requests to handle papers for employees' friends and families as well as for particularly difficult papers that they don't trust to many other writers. They've told me, very explicitly, that I'm one of their top 4 writers out of more than 100, the other 3 being Pheelyks, InfoCEO, and ResearchPro.

You should probably spend a little more time practicing you own writing so that you can actually make a living doing this and a little less time desperately contacting total stranger via this forum's message system to find out if they know who WB is and reviving ancient threads to gloat that you managed to find a mistake in one of my old posts. I'm not spellchecking this post either, so have at it if that makes you feel a little better about our respective value to the same company.
stu4 Observer   Oct 9, 10, 08:00PM | #12
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FreelanceWriter:
I've never seen any anti-plagiarism program in action

Have you ever seen any other action? Doubful. Doesn't EssayTown check papers for plagiarism?
FreelanceWriter Writer Edited by: FreelanceWriter   Oct 10, 10, 11:41AM | #13
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stupid4:
Doesn't EssayTown check papers for plagiarism?
Yes, but we writers have nothing to do with that; it's not like we get a report on every paper we write confirming that it's 100% original. I'd imagine that writers would only receive a report if a paper got flagged. Thanks for asking.
AspireOne   Oct 13, 10, 05:58AM | #14
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Hi,
I'm using Turnitin....
rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 13, 10, 07:22AM | #15
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FreelanceWriter:
You should probably spend a little more time practicing you own writing so that you can actually make a living doing this and a little less time desperately contacting total stranger via this forum's message system to find out if they know who WB is and reviving ancient threads to gloat that you managed to find a mistake in one of my old posts.


can you teach me how to write run-on sentences like a pro?

FreelanceWriter:
eanwhile, I've never seen even a single request for you on the board, ever.


glad to know you're thinking about me. as I explained before, I don't do custom orders for AD.

FreelanceWriter:
I'm not spellchecking this post either


you spelled pigeon right-- it's just that you're a dumbass. no spellchecker in the world is going to overcome that for you.
FreelanceWriter Writer   Oct 13, 10, 11:29AM | #16
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rustyironchains:
can you teach me how to write run-on sentences like a pro?
No, because anybody who thinks that's a run-on sentence is clearly an amateur.

rustyironchains:
glad to know you're thinking about me. as I explained before, I don't do custom orders for AD.
As I said, I'm not the one emailing total strangers around here desperately seeking information on the identity of other forum members who insulted me; you are.

rustyironchains:
you spelled pigeon right-- it's just that you're a dumbass. no spellchecker in the world is going to overcome that for you.
I already admitted to that mistake immediately. The point was simply that I don't bother spell-checking or proofreading these posts in general, not that SpellCheck flags homonyms or homophones.
WritersBeware   Oct 13, 10, 12:28PM | #17
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rustyironchains:
can you teach me how to write run-on sentences like a pro?

Here we go again, you freaking idiot. That is NOT a run-on sentence! Seriously—you're a teacher?
rustyironchains   Oct 13, 10, 04:41PM | #18
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WB, my first reaction is, I'm ashamed of you. why are you even here? who was addressing you?

but, if you really want to get into it, can I remind you of the time you claimed to be, yourself, "in the throws of embarrassment?"

WB-- "in the throws of embarrassment..."

FW-- "pigeon English..."

hahahaha. the crusader and the star writer! global errors like these need correction, and as a teacher, yes, you can count on me.

I'm looking forward to our next lesson!
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Oct 13, 10, 05:03PM | #19
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rustyironchains:
WB-- "in the throws of embarrassment..."

The ONLY reason why you even noticed my typo is because I had ALREADY CORRECTED IT MYSELF, you flaming moron:

www.essayscam.org/forum/9/masterpapers-spelling-error-1694/#msg30724


In 6,189 of my posts, that's all you've got?

___________________________________________________________________________

"Actually" is a conjunction.

The plural possessive of "sheep" is "sheeps'."

WB hacked into my AD account


--Rusty
rustyironchains   Oct 13, 10, 05:10PM | #20
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oh, believe me, I noticed it the first time. next lesson, then. wait... before you look up "prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar," WB, let's review.

when you make a global error like "the throws of embarrassment," even if you self-correct, it's important to reinforce correction. as you know from our last lesson, global errors are much more serious, and indicate much deeper problems.

now, on to "prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar." this is at the root of your snooty, stickler, grammarian behavior re: "actually," WB, so it's pretty important. let me know when you've made some progress, and understand the difference. till then!
EW_writer   Oct 13, 10, 05:12PM | #21
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WritersBeware position typos:

WritersBeware:
Sorry, but I don't check my posts for errors.


After being exposed as an obsessive-compulsive proofreader

WritersBeware:
A typo is not an "error." A typo is a typo. When I refer to "errors" in writing, I take it for granted that legitimate writers know exactly what I mean, which—of course—is why you don't understand. An "error" in the context of the professional writing field is an unrecognized mistake that results from a lack of knowledge/skill, not an accidentally bungled keystroke that the writer immediately recognizes and addresses. That stated, I do not check my posts for "errors" because I do not believe that I make knowledge/skill-based mistakes very often, if at all. On the other hand, when I read my own post after clicking the "Post Message" button and I see what is an obvious TYPO, I will fix it.


Yes folks, READING YOUR OWN WRITING and changing things about it that are wrong is not called checking your posts for errors, it's called... WritersBeware B*llsh*t.

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WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Oct 13, 10, 05:17PM | #22
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Yawn #3.

Having been slapped silly in all substantive matters of debate, the lying crook, Margaret Marsot, once again returns to her roots: meaningless, irrelevant, personal attacks.


EW_writer:
Yes folks

More desperate pleas for attention. How sad . . . .
EW_writer   Oct 13, 10, 05:51PM | #23
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WritersBeware:
Having been slapped silly in all substantive matters of debate


Nice try. EVERYONE here knows that you lost horribly in that debate. Unlike you, I actually have enough guts to post a link to it.

Does this site do oxymoron(ism) ? - page 3

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fervent, unrelenting, years-long, public support/defense of a belief—in writing—constitutes action in the eyes of the law.


- from the mad imaginings of pretend-lawyer, WritersBeware (2010)

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WritersBeware   Oct 13, 10, 06:01PM | #24
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You don't have guts. You're just nuts.

My response:
Does this site do oxymoron(ism) ? - page 3


Tell me—did it take "guts" to lie for YEARS about being a male, ESL writer because you couldn't legitimately refute my claims about the average, ESL writer in the American essay industry? Yeah, real guts . . . . F'ing coward.
EW_writer   Oct 13, 10, 06:19PM | #25
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WritersBeware:
ESL writer in the American essay industry?


What? This claim?

WritersBeware:
Indeed, there are countless foreign, ESL writers who write as well as I do in the English language.


Got absolutely nothing against it. ^__^

Nice touch trying to drag FW to your side by picking an issue that you know is so close to his heart. I don't agree with FW's position about the general quality of ESL writers who get to stay in the industry but I have no further interest to debate him about it. After all, I'm a native English speaker now. ^_^

See you later.
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Oct 13, 10, 06:57PM | #26
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EW_writer:
Indeed, there are countless foreign, ESL writers who write as well as I do in the English language.

Well, I wouldn't expect you to honestly communicate the context of the previous statement from the thread from which you quoted it. That statement does NOT reflect my position that such writers do NOT represent the AVERAGE, ESL WRITER IN THE AMERICAN RESEARCH INDUSTRY.

EW_writer:
After all, I'm a native English speaker now. ^_^

No, you're just a run-of-the-mill liar.

Just shut up already. I will successfully refute any and all assertions that you make.


EW_writer:
I have no further interest to debate him about it.

FW and I share the exact same position. Your lack of "interest" in debating him stems from the fact that you simply can't handle somebody else kicking your arse. I, on the other hand, have absolutely no problem kicking the snot out of you, stupid4, and RustyWriter at the same time, without any help.
JKC   Oct 13, 10, 08:47PM | #27
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Yeah, some college instructors are using turnitin.com which offers http://www.writecheck.com/static/home.html - a similar tool for students. I believe it uses the same database to check the papers.
rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 14, 10, 07:20AM | #28
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turnitin.com is the enemy. would someone who can hack please do us all a favor?

WB-- did you do your homework?
bam bam Company Representative   Oct 14, 10, 08:23AM | #29
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rustyironchains:
turnitin.com is the enemy. would someone who can hack please do us all a favor?

Why do you say taht Rustyboy. I don't see a problem with a site that encourages creativity. If all papers could be submitted through turnitin, companies would be unable to resell papers, timescales notwithstanding.
EW_writer   Oct 14, 10, 11:00AM | #30
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EW_writer:
After all, I'm a native English speaker now. ^_^


WritersBeware:
No, you're just a run-of-the-mill liar.


WritersBeware:
She graduated from from Texas A&M.

She is not an ESL writer. Posing as an ESL writer is merely one of the tactics that she uses to shield her true identity.


Self-contradictions are really your style, aren't they? ^_________^

WritersBeware:
Indeed, there are countless foreign, ESL writers who write as well as I do in the English language.


WritersBeware:
That statement does NOT reflect my position that such writers do NOT represent the AVERAGE, ESL WRITER IN THE AMERICAN RESEARCH INDUSTRY.


The math should be simple, even for you. If there are "countless" competent ESL writers (assuming that an ESL writer who can write as well as you do can be can be considered baseline competent), then it's only reasonable to think that many of them are making use of their competent writing skills to earn a living as freelance writers. Now, if you want to argue the contrary and claim that few of these countless competent ESL writers go into the American essay writing industry because they are already much better employed in top-ranking magazines, having jobs that some American writers can only dream of then well, go ahead. ^______________^
WritersBeware   Oct 14, 10, 12:30PM | #31
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EW_writer:
it's only reasonable to think that many of them are making use of their competent writing skills to earn a living as freelance writers.

Not in the essay industry . . . . Any honest, American writer in the industry will tell you exactly that, after having corrected ESL garbage nearly every day.


EW_writer:
having jobs that some American writers can only dream of

Yeah, OK, Jane Fonda. All hail Hanoi Jane!
stu4 Observer   Oct 14, 10, 12:35PM | #32
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WritersBeware:
Any honest, American writer in the industry

honest + American writer = oxymoron
rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 14, 10, 12:58PM | #33
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bam bam:
I don't see a problem with a site that encourages creativity.


I'm going to assume you mean creating macros.

WB-- re: the "Hanoi Jane" thing-- did you know that Vietnam is over? guess what? the Cold War is also over. you really need to get out more-- after you do your homework, that is.
pheelyks Writer Edited by: pheelyks   Oct 14, 10, 01:16PM | #34
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stu4:
honest + American writer = oxymoron

If we accept that you actually believe this statement to be an accurate representation of reality, then either you don't hire American writers to work on your sites (something you should definitely let your American customers know, don't you think?), or you knowingly hire dishonest American writers, making you no better and possibly worse.

Care to list those websites again, dumba$$?
rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 14, 10, 02:40PM | #35
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stu4:
honest + American writer = oxymoron


you're just as bad as WB is! you two should stop fighting and form an alliance...
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Oct 14, 10, 02:43PM | #36
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Rusty, just STFU. You're an absolute moron.
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rustyironchains Edited by: rustyironchains   Oct 14, 10, 04:07PM | #37
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lol-- "personal attacks must stop!" right? who said that?

anyway, WB, I'll take that as a "no, I didn't look up the difference between prescriptive and descriptive grammar."

are you hungry? do you need a nap? why haven't you done your homework?
EW_writer   Oct 14, 10, 05:03PM | #38
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stu4:

honest + American writer = oxymoron

I agree with Rusty, you are WritersBeware are two sides of the same cruddy coin.

WritersBeware:
Not in the essay industry . . . . Any honest, American writer in the industry will tell you exactly that, after having corrected ESL garbage nearly every day.

Sorry, unless you have proof to back that up (and I'm not talking general statistics), it's clear from the statement you made and the assumption that your writing skills can be considered baseline competent that there are "countless" competent ESL writers out there. If a good many these "countless" writers aren't in the essay writing industry, then where are they? If you care to claim that they are all working jobs that are more prestigious (is there any prestige in writing students' essays in the first place?), then you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself. Hey, don't let me stop you though. ^___^
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Oct 14, 10, 06:16PM | #39
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rustyironchains:
lol-- "personal attacks must stop!" right? who said that?

You and your moron comrades didn't step up to the plate, so FU.


EW_writer:
I agree with Rusty,

No surprise there. You are both proven liars and criminals. Two POS in a POD.


EW_writer:
Sorry, unless you have proof to back that up

As I stated, why don't you ask any of the competent, American writers in the industry? Show some intestinal fortitude for once, you sniveling coward. Ask FreelanceWriter, pheelyks, WRT, AsianWriter, etc. We both know that you won't because you are SCARED of them—and their answers.
EW_writer   Oct 14, 10, 06:46PM | #40
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WritersBeware:
As I stated, why don't you ask any of the competent, American writers in the industry?


Because I don't need to. The argument speaks for itself, thanks to you.

WritersBeware:
Indeed, there are countless foreign, ESL writers who write as well as I do in the English language.


It's you who need to compile actual statistics to prove that the countless competent ESL writers that you claim exist work elsewhere.

^____________^
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