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Mar 29, 10, 08:35PM
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Now..how do we know if it's an original paper?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Mar 29, 10, 08:54PM
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I don't know about other companies, but all the ones who use me always check our work with something like turnitin software. Plagiarism gets you fired immediately. It wouldn't take too long to get caught even if they didn't; the first time a student complained and forwarded a plagiarism report documenting plagiarism, we'd be done. From what I've read on this forum about other companies, that's obviously not universally true in the industry.
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| WRT |
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Mar 30, 10, 01:40AM
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Songirl: Now..how do we know if it's an original paper?
Apart from the fact that legitimate companies check the work prior to sending it to the customer, you can do so through writecheck.turnitin.com.FreelanceWriter: Plagiarism gets you fired immediately.
Unfortunately, freelancewriter, only a handful follow the one strike plagiarism policy.
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| dreamer |
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Apr 1, 10, 10:11AM
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Songirl: Now..how do we know if it's an original paper?
I think, when it comes to you it is original. But almost all the companies resell them. In two years, we came across only one or two companies, who don't. This does not mean that they won't do so in future.
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| Songirl |
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Apr 7, 10, 12:42AM
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ok Thanks for your responses... going to keep that turnitin.com.. but it sounds like from dreamer, there's a chance I might get a resold paper anyway.. but the info helps.. thanks
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Edited by: meqr Apr 21, 10, 04:15PM
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'Songirl' I noticed you did a message on printwriter? do you have any feedback?
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| Songirl |
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Apr 21, 10, 05:33PM
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I ended up using "Freelancewriter". Probably not allowed to say anything more specific but no complaints at all about what I got for my money.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Apr 21, 10, 05:53PM
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Songirl, name-dropping is NOT allowed, for very specific reasons.
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Apr 22, 10, 01:41AM
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WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule. Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....
Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here.
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| WritersBeware |
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Apr 22, 10, 02:09AM
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Attention, MORON:
FreelanceWriter works for legitimate, American companies and agrees with my positions probably 95% of the time, so your claim merely proves your idiocy.
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Apr 22, 10, 03:13AM
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WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule.
Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....
Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here (WB, WRT et al).
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| WritersBeware |
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Apr 22, 10, 03:27AM
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Just like the psychotic loser to repeat its defeated argument . . . .
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| WRT |
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Apr 22, 10, 06:08AM
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The Psycho makes this declaration:
Kevin: Libel and lies are not allowed
Then goes on to state the following:
Kevin: you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business
Kevin: Ignore the scammers here (WB, WRT et al).
Your powers of persuasion are, indeed, amazing. Your arguments are, by all accounts, absolutely unique.
It is difficult for any to counter the remarkable points you've raised :)
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Apr 22, 10, 09:02AM
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WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule.
Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....
Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here (WB, WRT et al).
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| Songirl |
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Apr 22, 10, 03:51PM
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WritersBeware: Songirl, name-dropping is NOT allowed, for very specific reasons. |
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Apr 22, 10, 09:50PM
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WRT: Unfortunately, freelancewriter, only a handful follow the one strike plagiarism policy
Is there anyway to figure that out?
also regarding turnitin, I heard they keep a copy of your paper? Is that true?
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Apr 22, 10, 10:42PM
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Someone answer me pleeeeese this is what I found:
Under their terms and conditions they state:
License to Use Papers Submitted. With regard to papers submitted to the Site, You hereby grant iParadigms a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, world-wide, irrevocable license to reproduce, transmit, display, disclose, archive and otherwise use in connection with the Services any paper You submit to the Site. Please note that papers submitted to the Site are not read or reviewed by any individuals, but rather are only analyzed using the Service.
Then under the FAQ's they say:
Does WriteCheck add my paper to the Turnitin databases?
No WriteCheck does not add your paper to Turnitin's databases. Therefore if your instructor submits your paper to Turnitin, it will be seen by Turnitin as an original paper.
Isn't that contradicting??
Help!!
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| curious321 |
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Apr 22, 10, 11:12PM
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The only way this is reconcilable is if:
1) There is a turnitin database
This is where they store all the essays that are checked by lecturers and institutions
2) Writecheck
When students check their work using this service, then as they say, they do not store it in this database hence when the lecturer checks it, it will come up original.
Am I making sense?
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| WRT |
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Apr 23, 10, 12:53AM
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curious321: also regarding turnitin, I heard they keep a copy of your paper? Is that true?
Yes, Turnitin does store a copy in the repository.
curious321: 2) Writecheck When students check their work using this service, then as they say, they do not store it in this database hence when the lecturer checks it, it will come up original.
That's what they say. The fact is that if you use writecheck and your instructor later scans the same paper through turnitin, it does come up as original. Whether or not the papers are stored or are simply eliminated from the cross-checking, is hard to tell.
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Apr 23, 10, 06:56AM
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Thanks, so I guess Turnitin is being a little dishonest in their FAQ section as quoted above?
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| WRT |
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Apr 23, 10, 07:26AM
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curious321: Thanks, so I guess Turnitin is being a little dishonest in their FAQ section as quoted above?
I can't say for sure but, I rather do suspect that they are stored.
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Sep 2, 10, 03:44PM
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I've used Turnitin as a student and yes, they do store your papers from everywhere as long as you've submitted in to them.
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| fach |
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Sep 20, 10, 12:40AM
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i uses writecheck always before send "my job" to my instructors. and never have issues about plagiarism.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Sep 20, 10, 04:07AM
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fach: i uses writecheck always before send "my job" to my instructors. and never have issues about plagiarism.
I've just read your whole series of "contributions" to threads and I'd just like to ask you what language do want us to believe anybody actually pays you to "write" in? It can't possibly be English, right?
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Edited by: rustyironchains Sep 20, 10, 06:18AM
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FreelanceWriter: what language do want us to believe anybody actually pays you to "write" in?
if you are going to live in a glass house, better proof your posts!
dreamer: when it comes to you it is original. But almost all the companies resell them
until turnitin.com, they did so much more freely. this is yet another reason that turnitin.com is the bane of the writing industry, from the writer/owner side.
for the student side, I have a request: go to your professor, express concern about the legal copyright status of your papers, and ask for help with opting out of turnitin.com.
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Sep 20, 10, 10:11AM
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FreelanceWriter: I've just read your whole series of "contributions" to threads and I'd just like to ask you what language do want us to believe anybody actually pays you to "write" in? It can't possibly be English, right?
Yes sir it is not english, i am esl student. i never said "i am writer" actually i am consumer. i like to uses writecheck. somebody told me "sometimes you read and read a lot and few statements can stick in your head and look like plagiarism"
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Sep 20, 10, 05:52PM
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No problem. Read more. Post less.
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