| senarbass |
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Jun 29, 11, 06:20AM
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I thought nothing could shock me anymore. But then I found this board (and others like it)...
You all post here about being scammed, expressing righteous indignation that these essay-writing services perpetrate "fraud" against writers.
And what exactly are you all doing? Yes, that's right: selling essays to students with money to help them fraudulently obtain academic degrees with no work.
Have you no shame at all?
I am a Harvard and Oxford-educated writer to D.Phil level (yes, I paid my way myself) who is looking into using my writing skills to make a living as a freelancer. I have recently come across these services and sites. At first, I laughed to see the whining and ******** about being "scammed." If you weren't scamming yourselves, you wouldn't be in a position to be scammed, no?
Then I started thinking about what you all are doing to cheapen and destroy the value of education in the world.
You are proud of your academic degrees? Well, you cheapen them immeasurably with every bogus essay you deliver to a bogus student.
You whine that you have to do this as you really need the money? So does a bank robber, or the guy who holds up the liquor store.
You, no doubt, would condemn an arms dealer. But all he is doing is selling the tools, like you. You both enable the crime-- and cheapening the value of an education is a great crime.
You all should know better. You once thought it important enough to get a degree.
Regain your dignity and your self-worth. Get a real job, and a real life. Use your skills to further education, not destroy it.
Frankly, as you scam, so will you be scammed.
Shame on you.
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 29, 11, 07:17AM
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You claim to have gone to Harvard and Oxford, both of which cost inordinate amounts of money, and now you're trying to make a living as a freelance writer presumably because your advanced degrees from such prestigious schools aren't actually helping you pay your bills.
Who's screwing who here, exactly?
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| beatrice |
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Jun 29, 11, 07:35AM
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It's funny how you can make anything (and I mean anything) look good or bad. There are probably thousands of posters like senarbass who have to come to gun-related forums and complained that guns are bad because this or that. Others went to refrigerator forums because of some unfortunate accident involving a refrigerator happened. They curse refrigerator manufacturers, of course.
The 1M dollar question is h-o-w you use the product or service (and if you use it according to the seller's instructions). If you buy a knife and kill somebody, you have misused the purpose of the knife. If you buy a video camera to spy on people in bathrooms, you have misused the purpose of the product. If you buy Internet service to try to find child p(rnography, you have misused the service. Being a Harvard graduate you should know that, but you have purposely ... misused the purpose of this site :).
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| MeoKhan |
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Edited by: MeoKhan Jun 29, 11, 09:10AM
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senarbass: If you weren't scamming yourselves, you wouldn't be in a position to be scammed, no?
Though you've been educated (as you say) in some good institutions, you have miserable research and writing skills.
First, you just came in and made a post WITHOUT substantial research on WHAT essay writing is actually about; secondly, your overgeneralization clearly tells me that you need to improve your writing skills because on this forum there are both kinds of writers: those who have been scammed by some companies/students, and the ones who have not been.
Although you tried to sound philosophical above, the lack of the two skills have drastically exposed the real you.
Therefore, there is no point at all to present a counterargument to what you're trying to substantiate.
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| WritersBeware |
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Jun 29, 11, 11:13AM
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This is the well-known moron using a new username . . . .
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| MeoKhan |
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Edited by: MeoKhan Jun 29, 11, 11:36AM
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WritersBeware: well-known moron
Who is s/he in real?
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| forumregulator |
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Jun 29, 11, 02:36PM
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senarbass: I am a Harvard and Oxford-educated writer
Too much detail. And what exactly do you want for graduating from these universities? A cookie?senarbass: who is looking into using my writing skills to make a living as a freelancer
Sad that you are yet to start making a living but I'll give you a hint. Academic writing is probably too involving so I would advise you to go to Freelancer and start doing article spinning for $0.5 per every 500 words.senarbass: cheapen and destroy the value of education in the world.
Not true. Educational institutions are there to acquire, preserve and disseminate knowledge, and the role of this forum is to ensure that well researched model papers are available to interested scholars and academics, which, in all likelihood, increases the quality of education.
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| kasminka |
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Jun 30, 11, 02:13AM
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This post is in response to beatrice
I completely agree. Anything can be used in a negative way, however it is down to the person using the service. Essay writing is a service, as simple as that. The student in question then decides how to use the service, if they misuse it how is it the companies fault?
The same could be said for the provision of books, journals, websites etc. These are all resources that can be misused, however, they aren't treated the same way as essay writing services.
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| stu4 |
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Jun 30, 11, 11:24AM
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Fcuking refrigerator manufacturing gangsters! They make refrigerators and help criminals hide their victims. They are parts of international crime rings. They must be punished for helping in crime. Lolz!
An Israeli woman who had come to India to learn yoga was murdered allegedly by her Indian lover, a yoga instructor, who kept the body hidden for 18 days in a refrigerator, Bangalore police said.
http://freshnewsdaily.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/girl-friends-murdered-after- body-hidden-in-the-refrigerator/
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| Twig |
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Jun 30, 11, 02:13PM
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senarbass: I am a Harvard and Oxford-educated writer to D.Phil level
A High School dropout!
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 30, 11, 03:01PM
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Twig: A High School dropout!
We don't capitalize "High School" unless we're talking about a musical, and if that's the case then go away.
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| Braxton |
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Edited by: Braxton Jul 1, 11, 02:30AM
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@ Harvard/Oxford fellow; You claim Harvard blood is what runs your system, yes you've got it all wrong. There's a difference between Harvard student and a student in Harvard. You know where you belong, coz Harvard brains are serious innovators and self-starters. If anything they all groom wild ambitions; of becoming presidents or heading serious entities. Don't bring unwarranted competition in the industry. At least, life has taught you one thing- that a degree is just another paper.
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| editor75 |
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Edited by: editor75 Jul 1, 11, 07:41AM
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Braxton makes an awesome point, and makes it in a style that is entirely appropriate.
pheelyks, you snooty, annoying priss, when will you stop trying to censor grammar on internet message boards? it would be marginally less sad if you displayed proper grammar yourself. haven't you heard the one about "glass houses?"
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| Twig |
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Edited by: Twig Jul 1, 11, 08:49AM
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pheelyks: We don't capitalize "High School" unless we're talking about a musical, and if that's the case then go away.
See: http://www.gatesfoundation.org/united-states/Documents/TheSilentEpidemic3-0 6Final.pdf
I do not blame you for this. I actually blame your level of insanity.
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| pheelyks |
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Jul 1, 11, 09:17AM
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editor75: it would be marginally less sad if you displayed proper grammar yourself.
Example?
Twig: See: gatesfoundation.org/united-states/Documents/TheSilentEpidemic3-06Final.pdf
Did you read any of the document you just linked to? They capitalize "High School" in the title (we do that in English speaking countries), but it is definitely not capitalized when the phrase simply appears in a sentence. Your own source proves my point.
Come back when the you've gotten rid of some stupid.
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