| Zandermus |
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Feb 23, 11, 12:45AM
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Felix:
Write a sentence without being able to go back and reread it. I doubt if it's going to be purfect.
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Feb 23, 11, 12:56AM
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pheelyks: Where did I bring up respect, or say that I desired it from others here?
Wow! ignorant idiot, you make it worse for yourself each time you try to say something.
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Feb 23, 11, 06:03AM
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2MockingBird: That is the only mistake i have noted in your essay. Did the company confirm to you that they went through your essay?
is this a sort of a cruel and blatant trolling?
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Feb 23, 11, 06:21AM
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this entire discussion can be summarized like that:
- this is a crap!
- and who are you to tell that?
there goes a bunch of posts arguing someone's competence and nearing the concept of respect on the public forums
"although i cannot lay an egg, i am a very good judge of omelettes" – g. b. shaw
if i tell that a design sucks, this doesn't mean that i can do a better one. this only means that it sucks and this is the gospel truth.
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Edited by: 2MockingBird Feb 23, 11, 06:46AM
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Smirk:
I like your summary but are sure you can't lay eggs? Also, you sound like you are an evangelical Christian...am i right?
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Feb 23, 11, 06:55AM
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Smirk:
I think you have a sharp eye for the absurd. Have you ever thought of being a cop?
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Feb 23, 11, 07:43AM
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2MockingBird: I think you have a sharp eye for the absurd. Have you ever thought of being a cop?
it's my utmost belief that trolling shouldn't be that blatant
2MockingBird: I like your summary but are sure you can't lay eggs?
if this is a question, it sucks both in sentence structure and in irony, but i think it was a nice try.
you're on your way to more sophisticated trolling.
2MockingBird: you sound like you are an evangelical Christian...am i right?
amazing, you can define the level of religious commitment by the lack of proficiency in foreign language, while not using it as the first one. so who's gonna make a better cop?
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 23, 11, 09:03AM
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Smirk:
:] Seriously funny! Good quote!
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 23, 11, 09:44AM
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Zandermus: Write a sentence without being able to go back and reread it. I doubt if it's going to be purfect.
I don't re-read most of my posts. I'm sure I make occasional typographical errors, and maybe even some more serious mistakes at times, but I don't need to re-read my sentences just to make sure I have subject-verb agreement, logical flow, and proper grammar. Your handicap must make things more difficult, but it doesn't explain your struggles in constructing sentences with proper syntax and regular word usage.
eric85: Wow! ignorant idiot,
Wow! Complete moron, answer the question if you're going to quote it.
smirk: this entire discussion can be summarized like that: - this is a crap! - and who are you to tell that?
Actually, there is objective evidence supplied to substantiate the "this is carp!" statement in your summary (though my tone and mode of expression was quite different--more rational and polite to begin with). This isn't simply a difference of opinion; there are objective rules in English and certain standard in collegiate writing that many posters on this board simply cannot meet. When one of the posters decides to start commenting on someone else's English, they're going to hear about it from me.
smirk: this only means that it sucks and this is the gospel truth.
What I undertand you to mean in context is that Zandermus is perfectly allowed to comment on someone else's problems even if he can;t do any better himself. I don't disagree with this, but I fail to see why it is somehow less OK for me to comment on Zandermus' issues using the same logic.
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Edited by: smirk Feb 23, 11, 10:22AM
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pheelyks: Actually, there is objective evidence supplied to substantiate the "this is carp!" statement in your summary (though my tone and mode of expression was quite different--more rational and polite to begin with).
ok, let me amend the summary a bit:
zandermus: this essay is a crap
pheelyks: who are you to tell that?
pheelyks: What I undertand you to mean in context is that Zandermus is perfectly allowed to comment on someone else's problems even if he can;t do any better himself.
exactly, my point is: everyone is perfectly allowed to comment on anything. zandermus can comment on the topics named "you are welcome to judge" and you can comment on his or mine english skills
the second point is: the competence of reviewer doesn't affect the quality of the reviewed object
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 23, 11, 11:30AM
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smirk: zandermus: this essay is a crap pheelyks: who are you to tell that?
More like:
Zandermus: this is crap
me: so is this
smirk: the competence of reviewer doesn't affect the quality of the reviewed object
No, but it does affect the quality and the integrity of the review itself. If one judges without all of the necessary knowledge and skills to judge, then that judgment won't really be the best, will it?
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Feb 23, 11, 11:48AM
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Felix:
What has the fish got to do with all of this?
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 23, 11, 01:13PM
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Zandermus: What has the fish got to do with all of this?
Wow. You managed to catch that typo yet claim your disability makes it impossible for you to control punctuation, spelling, etc. Is blindness a real problem that inhibits your productive interaction with the world, as you have claimed, or is it just a convenient excuse?
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Feb 23, 11, 01:25PM
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Carp is some bad eatin'.
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Feb 23, 11, 01:29PM
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Felix:
I wasn't being horrible. I just wanted to know what the fish was all about? My pc read, carp. So, I was confused. No need to be rude.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 23, 11, 01:49PM
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Zandermus: No need to be rude.
I'm not being rude. If you honestly couldn't figure out that "carp" was a typo in context--when the word "crap" had already been used and quite obviously makes more sense--then you have some comprehension problems totally unrelated to any of your disabilities. If--as I still suspect--you didknow that it was a typo, then a my original point stands and my question remains, and b)you are sinking to a lower level of argument than you have heretofore hit. It's a pretty standard level for people trying to defend their skills as writers on this forum, but usually it only comes from those more desperate than you.
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Feb 23, 11, 01:59PM
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Felix:
Oh sorry, the previous crap was in the middle of some weird stuff so it didn't register. I was just taking note of what you were saying about me and my writing. But, you seriously are being rude tonight. I've given you all my reasons for writing like I do. They are the truth and not some lame ass excuses. I'm sure you will be happy to hear that I do not plan to do academic writing for much longer. I am going to do my phd in creative writing. They help you publish your book and everything! :] In all honesty I dislike academic writing, I just have to do it so I can pay for my mother's old age home fees. So be at ease masterful Felix! I do not plan to impose my substandard skills on your sacred turf for much longer. Oh yes, since seeing you were really offensive in suggesting that I would use my disability as an excuse... Go screw yourself, I'm sure it will bring you almost as much pleasure as fixing forum posters' grammar.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 23, 11, 02:16PM
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The more sob stories you pile on, the more I doubt that any of them are true. If you really already earned a master's degree and actually do this for a living, there's no way reading and writing on a computer still gives you this much trouble. And my question wasn't rude--you're the one that made your disability an issue, so I am asking if it actually makes things as difficult as you say. From some of your comments--the "carp" thing in particular--it seems fairly clear that you can pick out fairly minute details with relative ease, and even focus on them exclusively when it suits your purpose.
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Feb 24, 11, 01:58AM
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Carp sounds very different from crap. I already asked you if you want all my qualifications to prove that I'm not talking crap. Just go reread your posts, then you'll see how rude you came across. I have no soppy stories to tell, only the truth and if that seems soppy to you then you obviously have a great life. I already told you that I like you, well I want to change that statement: I liked you.
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Edited by: pheelyks Feb 24, 11, 02:28AM
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Zandermus: Carp sounds very different from crap.
It has all of the same sounds, with the exception of the vowel, and made absolutely no sense in context. The fact that your only comment on the entire string of posts was, "what's with the fish?" also suggests that you were being quite selective in what you responded to, as though you were attempting to highlight a mistake. Stop backpedaling.
Zandermus: I already asked you if you want all my qualifications to prove that I'm not talking crap
First of all, I never said you wre "talking crap." If your PC reading technology is malfunctioning this badly, I really don't see how you could conduct online research and writing. Second, I already told you that qualifications don't mean a thing--I know someone that got an English degree form a very reputable university when she still doesn't know the difference between a noun and a verb, let alone how to write a truly accomplished and coherent essay.
Zandermus: Just go reread your posts, then you'll see how rude you came across.
I re-read them, and still say I come across as rational and honest while you become increasingly emotional and defensive. Point out a specific comment you feel was rude, and maybe we can get somewhere on this.
Zandermus: I have no soppy stories to tell
Oh. So that off-hand comment about needing to pay for your mother's old-folks home was somehow relevant to the conversation, and not just more emotional fluff?
Zandermus: you obviously have a great life.
While I am pretty happy with my life at this point, you have no idea what y life is or has been like, precisely because I don't feel a need to air all of my personal baggage on this forum, or to somehow excuse myself from the standards that apply to everyone else because I've had to struggle. My struggles have admittedly not been as great as yours, assuming what you've said about yourself is true, but even when things have been pretty hard I didn't look for excuses.
I'm sorry that you don't find honesty a likable quality when its pointed in your direction. Posting as a writer on this forum was probably a mistake from the get go.
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Edited by: smirk Feb 24, 11, 02:52AM
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thread summary, 3d edition:
- this essay is crap
- as well as your review and you were not allowed to post it anyway
pheelyks: then that judgment won't really be the best, will it?
of course not, but even the best judgement will not make the object of review any better.
actually, i was objecting to the point that zandermus is not allowed to comment. he is, but by leaving his review he invites everyone to comment on it.
pheelyks: You managed to catch that typo
i think it was a joke
Zandermus: They are the truth and not some lame ass excuses.
i fail to see the reason for providing excuses for poor skills
i can't draw well.
excuse: i was never taught to do it and i don't have any talent for this
can i post my drawings on the internet? yes
can people tell me that they are poor? yes
can i comment on the drawings of other people? yes
can i sell them and do some custom drawing? well, if someone wants me to
replace "draw" with "write" and you will get my point
Zandermus: if you want all my qualifications
i fail to see the point here too.
it's entirely possible that the op has some credentials proving their proficiency in english,
but they are totally discarded by their essay
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 24, 11, 02:56AM
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smirk: actually, i was objecting to the point that zandermus is not allowed to comment
No one ever said this, to my knowledge.smirk: i think it was a joke
So do I. Zandermus insists he really thought I was talking about a fish.
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Feb 24, 11, 03:42AM
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smirk: he is, but by leaving his review he invites everyone to comment on it.
Which was precisely what happened. ^_^ However instead of simply owning up to his faults and moving on, Zandermus decided to play the disability card.
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Feb 24, 11, 04:08AM
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my bad. i didn't read this
pheelyks: that Zandermus is perfectly allowed to comment on someone else's problems even if he can;t do any better himself.
till the end
pheelyks: I don't disagree with this |
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Feb 24, 11, 10:06AM
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EW writer:
Felix questioned my proficiency in English. I told hI'm a native speaker. He was somewhat disbelieving and pointed out what was wrong with my posts. So, I explained why they come across like they do. Unfortunately, he thinks these are excuses and not the truth. So, if that is playing the disability card, well strike me dead with a lightning bolt.
Smirk:
I only mentioned the qualifications because Felix doesn't think I could've earned a masters degree with my pc skills.
Felix:
I've changed my mind. I do still like you. I just wish you'd understand that I am not making excuses I am explaining things to you, that's all.
Summary:
the ap's essay is not good. Although, my review is accurate, the lack in coherence in my posts does not give me the authority to judge the ap's essay because I am not brilliant myself. Therefore, any forum post can be judged, not only those who wish their essays to be judged.
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Feb 24, 11, 10:34AM
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My assessment: Very weak.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 24, 11, 10:43AM
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Zandermus: well strike me dead with a lightning bolt
That would certainly be a fitting end to your tale of woe.
Zandermus: I only mentioned the qualifications because Felix doesn't think I could've earned a masters degree with my pc skills.
No, I said that if your disability actually gave you as much trouble as you have claimed it does in this thread, earning your masters would have been next to impossible. I don't actually believe your disabilities make things as difficult as you say.
Zandermus: I've changed my mind.
You do that really often. Oh, that's right--bipolar.
Zandermus: I do still like you.
I don't really care.
Zandermus: I am not making excuses I am explaining things to you, that's all
That's what people who still believe their own excuses say.
kingbing: My assessment: Very weak.
Your comment: entirely pointless.
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Feb 24, 11, 10:46AM
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The text on their website is barely intelligible. I would be wary of even working for them.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 24, 11, 10:48AM
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kingbing: I would be wary of even working for them.
I think they would be wary of hiring you, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Feb 24, 11, 03:56PM
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Zandermus: I told hI'm a native speaker.
I think that nobody is questioning this in as far as your definition of native speaker as pointed out by smirk is concerned.
smirk: i'm inclined to believe that. apparently, you live in a country, which used to be a part of the british empire, so you are somewhat bilingual
Zandermus: So, if that is playing the disability card, well strike me dead with a lightning bolt.
Saying that your grammar is off because you're blind is playing the disability card.
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Feb 25, 11, 03:06AM
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Zandermus: Unfortunately, he thinks these are excuses and not the truth.
actually, it's not important whether the excuses or explanations are real. the thing is that no one needs them:
smirk: excuse: i was never taught to do it and i don't have any talent for this
is it a real excuse? you bet
does it make my drawings any better?
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| TellrsMcgw |
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Oct 11, 11, 06:10AM
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Spell out abbreviations. Not only do they increase the length of the essays and word count (which can be helpful) but also they look syntactically more mature
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 11, 11, 10:18AM
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TellrsMcgw: they look syntactically more mature
Someone's clearly never read anything published in an academic journal......
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