| Zarema |
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Feb 21, 11, 07:58AM
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Here is my essay I sent to Livingston Research and was told my skill set is not enough to work for them! Is it???
Since ancient times people have been warred for territory, recourses, wealth, others for independence and idea till present days and seems, it will never end up. Along with militant attitudes peace became a desirable goal to reach that has got the highest prices ever – a human life. The 20th century was rich in evidence how nonsense and unwarranted losses are in comparison with aims and interests pursued by governments and leaders. The WWI displayed people should commence the movement towards taking and realization measurements in the direction of providing security and peace, improving the quality of life on the planet. The League of Nations became the organization suggesting its main objects as disarmament, prevention of wars, safeguarding of peace and security that was found after WWI and involved 58 countries members. But it failed to oversee the world peace and appeared ineffective. It is obvious the League of Nations was doomed to failure from the very beginning In order to understand the reasons of complete collapse we should analyze the situation established on the world scene after WWI and alignment of forces. Versailles- Washington system created the preconditions for dividing the territories of Europe and appearance of new states and countries which lead to the local wars and conflicts for territories in the world. Moreover, the biggest countries as USA, communist USSR and later Germany didn't want to participate in the League of Nations and disarm due to threat between those countries. In fact, the claims of almost all countries on each one, incompatibility of international organizations with sovereignty of some countries, conservative order in the system of the League of Nations, lack of means, poor cooperation between member countries and, finally, inaction in war conflicts, these are Japanese invasion of Chinese Manchuria (1931) and Italian war with Ethiopia (1935) weakened its positions and it lost its authority and influence. Thus, in 1946 the League of Nations went out of existence. Appearance of another international organization important in the history became the consequence of WWII. The United Nations Organization was founded by 51 countries and now it has 192 member countries. The main postulates are issued in its Charter, that is "...to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and establish conditions under which justice and respect under obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom..." If we compare these two organizations under consideration it is obvious that the last one succeeded in the accomplishment of its highly significant mission. But I believe the other question we should pay more attention to is how effective UN is and how more effective it could be! We can't deny or underestimate the contribution UN made in development and achievement of better conditions of life and friendly relations among nations. These are participating in 60 peacemaking operation, great influence in solving Cuban Crisis in 1962, finishing Iran-Iraq war in 1988, civil wars in Guatemala, Cambodia, Mozambique, Salvador; Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; humanitarian aid; treaties for environmental protections and creating of UN system agencies like WHO, WFP, UNICEF. But at the same time UN was ineffective and even sometimes inactive in conflicts and problems the global community faced to: escalation of hostilities and ethnic purges in Kosovo, Ruanda, and South Ossetia. It is worth mentioning, it has a great influence from the sides of five greatest countries, these are the USA, Russia, Great Britain, China, France which finance the organization; the USA alone has the forth part of financing of UN, thereby, what kind of democratic and independent functioning is of discourse! In addition, financial scandals and bureaucracy revealed its shortcomings showing imperfection of system. Hence, UN's structure and system needs reforming in order to make it fully effective and maintain absolute authority among people, among governments, among nations. Hence, we can come to the conclusion that due to the situation established in the world after WWI, unwillingness of the greatest countries to participate, thoughtless management and inactivity lead the League of Nations to failure in overseeing the world peace and consequently stopped its existence. Though the United Nations Organization is more effective than its predecessor it is meant to become more efficient than it is now, to do much more to stop aggression and maintain peace in the world. So, UN is certainly requires reforming and achieving full independence from influence of any country that aims at total control and protects its own political and financial interests which often, and too often I would say, contradict people's ones. There is nothing more precious than a human life! And if the organization saves at least one life it is worth existence!
Zarema Shulakova
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 21, 11, 08:33AM
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My dear, I will be honest with you. Although, your ideas are pretty good, your sentence structure and grammar is not. Unfortunately, you have used incorrect verb forms in many places. Your sentences are not structured properly, often ending with parts that should have been in the middle of the sentence. I am sorry, but your essay just isn't at a high enough academic level. I am sure you are good at many other things, why don't you concentrate on them.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 21, 11, 01:49PM
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Zandermus: My dear, I will be honest with you. I've been holding back for awhile, but a little honesty is in order here as well. While your English is pretty decent, and you are certainly more fluent in English than I am in any foreign language, you also have some obvious and significant issues. I'm not sure what it is you do, but if you're a writer and don't tell customers that you don't have native fluency in English, you're as bad as the rest of them.
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 22, 11, 01:05AM
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Felix: :[ I am a native english speaker. My punctuation sucks though. I also don't proof read my forum posts. I can send you an essay if you like? :[ Do you feel like judging this other essay? I tried to be nice to the poster, but seriously, how can anyone think that that is a good essay? I must just say that I like you Felix and I appreciate your criticism.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 01:12AM
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Zandermus: I am a native english speaker. Really?
Zandermus: My punctuation sucks though. Yes, it does. You also have a lot of grammatical disagreements in your sentences--plurals that switch to singular and vice versa, etc., and your sentences are just plain awkward a lot of the time. It's not a matter of proofreading; it's about how you use language.
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 22, 11, 02:22AM
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Felix: Maybe it's because on this forum I write like I think, a bit mixed up? That happens to English Literature frieks you know who have spent too much time contimplating death and loneliness. My entire Masters class was the same. Perhaps the problem is that we were never obliged to take language classes, rather we were to stick our noses in some of the most bizarre books. Have you ever seen Sylvia plath's punctuation.. quite ghastly, just like mine; and Alice Walker's sentence structure is more awkward than mine! Yes, I really am a native English speaker. I'm sure that horrifies you. :] I speak two other languages as well. Okay, great I'm rambling again...
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| smirk |
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Feb 22, 11, 06:17AM
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Zandermus: :[ I am a native english speaker.
i'm inclined to believe that. apparently, you live in a country, which used to be a part of the british empire, so you are somewhat bilingual
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Feb 22, 11, 06:26AM
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Zarema: So, UN is certainly requires reforming and achieving
if you hold a degree in english, you have wasted your time and money
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:16AM
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Smirk: Yes, most of my countrymen are bilingual. We are required to do two languages up until Matric level. I just decided to take a third language at university to make my life difficult! We were a Dutch colony, then a British colony, then ruled by an oppressive minority government who imposed their language and culture on every one else. Now, we're a mixed up country that has 11 official languages! Absolutely crazy.
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Feb 22, 11, 09:22AM
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Zandermus still, i think you cannot be considered a true native speaker, the language spoken in your country has undertaken serious changes over the course of time and has strongly intermixed with the local ones.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:36AM
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Zandermus: Sylvia plath's punctuation.. quite ghastly, just like mine; and Alice Walker's sentence structure is more awkward than mine! Both of these writers made stylistic choices, and I disagree with your assessment of Plath's punctuation and Walker's sentences. The fact that they both wrote poetry and prose and not non-fiction also has a bearing on the issue.
Zandermus: That happens to English Literature frieks you know who have spent too much time contimplating death and loneliness. This is a really poor excuse. I have also read a lot of literature and spent much of my adolescence "contimplating death and loneliness" (I spelled "contemplating" right even in junior high, though--doesn't your browser have spell check?), and most of the world's great authors started out as great readers.
Zandermus: I speak two other languages as well. That truly is fantastic. It has nothing to do with whether or not your command of English is at a collegiate level.
smirk: if you hold a degree in english, you have wasted your time and money glass houses and all that.....
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| MeoKhan |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:45AM
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smirk: a true native speaker Dear Smirk, I think you cannot be considered an authority over endorsing people for (not) being native speakers. Why? Simple. You need to read recent books on the concept of native speaker-ism. These authors are from UK, USA, Ca, etc. So it's your people "the native speakers" who have raised serious criticism against the prejudiced views as to who is (not) a native speaker.
I hope others also take note ... :-)
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| Zandermus |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:47AM
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Smirk: Hmm, like the word "braai" which means "barbicue", we call a "verge" a "pavement", a "traffic light" a robot etc. Now that I think about it, the only person I really know who speaks an uncorrupted form of English, is my dad, he's British. Most english speakers insert so many Afrikaans words in there speach and viseversa. I don't do that at least! Yet, I am still a native English speaker and my english is way better than the english all my cousins in Wales speak. All in all I get what you're saying Smirk. Have I ever told you that I really like your forum name! It makes me laugh, especially when you make a snide comment. I can just imagine you sitting there with a "smirk" on your face!
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Edited by: MeoKhan Feb 22, 11, 09:54AM
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Zandermus well said
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| MeoKhan |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:55AM
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Zandermus: I can just imagine you sitting there with a "smirk" on your face lol
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:59AM
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MeoKhan: You need to read recent books on the concept of native speaker-ism. Can you provide any titles of these books, and maybe give us a hint about what they say? "you're wrong--some books say so" isn't exactly a rigorous argument.
Zandermus: Most english speakers insert so many Afrikaans words I know several people from South Africa that a)don't insert Afrikaans words into their sentences and b)write much better than you. You might feel that you speak better English than many of your countrymen, but this doesn't mean your writing is truly up to academic standards.
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| MeoKhan |
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Feb 22, 11, 10:03AM
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pheelyks: Can you provide any titles of these books I am sorry but I cannot! If you are sure (That you mistakenly are!) what I stated above is not factual, then sit back and relax. However, if you could see someone with some background in applied linguistics, please spend a few minutes with them!
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 10:16AM
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MeoKhan: what I stated above is not factual What you stated above is, "there are books." I believe that there are books, but I do not know what the books you are referring to are about--you have very real problems expressing yourself clearly in English. The fact that you feel comfortable making assertions like "there are books" without being able to name even one of them is also an indicator of your level of academic prowess.
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Edited by: smirk Feb 22, 11, 10:19AM
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pheelyks: glass houses and all that.....
thanks, but unlike the op i don't have illusions as to my english skills.
however, if you bother to point out some mistakes of mine, that will be appreciated.
i'll put the stones to use
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Feb 22, 11, 10:33AM
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MeoKhan: Dear Smirk, I think you cannot be considered an authority over endorsing people for (not) being native speakers. Why? Simple. You need to read recent books on the concept of native speaker-ism. These authors are from UK, USA, Ca, etc. So it's your people "the native speakers" who have raised serious criticism against the prejudiced views as to who is (not) a native speaker. I hope others also take note ... :-)
i'm not sure that i got the meta message of your post.
if it was "you are not an authority", neither are you, so what?
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Feb 22, 11, 10:38AM
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Zandermus: All in all I get what you're saying Smirk. Have I ever told you that I really like your forum name! It makes me laugh, especially when you make a snide comment. I can just imagine you sitting there with a "smirk" on your face!
well, thanks, absolutely, i'm trolling here most of the time and, what is more important, i'm not getting banned for this, which makes this forum so attractive for me.
just a few of my comments would suffice to get kicked out on another resource.
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Feb 22, 11, 10:38AM
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Felix: What ever! Dude, do you derive pleasure from being so difficult! Trust me, you have absolutely no idea about my country and the local populace. Would you like my academic records, cirtificates and every essay, poem, short story etc. I've ever written to prove that you are just being an ass by pursuing this "observation" of yours. The point of this thread was to judge that "interesting" essay in the first post, not "let's pick on Zandermus, because he/she seems vulnerable at this moment in time". I think it's disgusting that you judge people's english skills on this forum when they're writing in a colloquial and not an academic style. So, analyse that so-called academic essay in the first post.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 10:43AM
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Zandermus: Would you like my academic records, cirtificates No; I'm sure you did just fine academically, despite the fact that you can't spell "certificates." Your records wouldn't prove anything. Colloquial or not, the English you use on this forum has significant errors that someone with a truly high-level grasp of the language wouldn't make.
Zandermus: not "let's pick on Zandermus I'm not picking on you, I am very calmly and rationally pointing out some problems with your writing that are very relevant to others on this forum if you are trying to work as an academic writer. You decided to post on this thread because you felt you needed to be "honest" about the op's English skills; I felt I should be honest about yours. I haven't said anything untrue, and your explanations really are kind of weird and totally invalid.
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Edited by: smirk Feb 22, 11, 10:49AM
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Zandermus: What ever! Dude, do you derive pleasure from being so difficult!
it looks like you get insulted. why?
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Feb 22, 11, 10:58AM
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Felix: No, I don't have a spell check in my browser. I think my explanations are quite relevant. I read a hell of alot, but not with my eyes remember. I don't mind your honesty. I just wish you would do it in a less confrontational manner. Well, I'm off to slit my wrists, because despite being "a bad english native speaker" and disabled, I am bipolar too! Haha! Too bad you caught me on my crazy day... oh wait it's night here. Goodnight Felix, love you xxx
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Feb 22, 11, 11:00AM
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Smirk: Sorry, off day. I think it's because I've had to fight every step of my life.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 11:12AM
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Zandermus: I read a hell of alot, but not with my eyes remember Huh? First, I don't know exactly what you mean here; second, I still don't accept "I read a lot of literature" as a reasonable (or even rational) explanation for a poor grasp pf punctuation and syntax.
Zandermus: I just wish you would do it in a less confrontational manner. I don't think I was especially confrontational--I pointed out that there are some definite problems you need to work on before selling your services as a writer, that's all. If simply point out errors is confrontational, then no learning could ever occur without conflict.
Zandermus: Well, I'm off to slit my wrists, because despite being "a bad english native speaker" and disabled, I am bipolar too! Is this supposed to be a bid for sympathy? Because it really only makes you seem that much more unbalanced.
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Feb 22, 11, 11:41AM
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Felix: Do you remember the first thread, "well only thread" I started? Smirk an I had a discussion. I can't see, so I listen to everything on my computer. That's what I was talking about. No, I wasn't looking for sympathy, I am unbalanced, it's a fact. When I was at school, I used braille. In braille you have things called contractions; these are abreviations for words. For instance, according is just ac, v is very, ab is about etc. You also have one symbol for a series of letters, like a dot 3 4 and 6 stands for ing. So, my spelling isn't always purfect. In ms word, I have a spell check but not in my browser. At varsity, they had a problem with printing my notes, some lame ass excuse about enough staff. So, my work was read to me on a tape until I got my screen reading software, which reads in a computer generated voice. When I write essays, I print them in braille to check punctuation, then convert it back to a ms word document to check on spelling. It's a long process, but it works. Please understand that I cannot do that for forum posts. As to what I meant about reading alot: I am more creatively inclined than linguistically. I'm sorry for being rude in one of my earlier posts. I've just had to fight for every bit of education in my life.
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Feb 22, 11, 12:31PM
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The League of Nations, Livingston Research, from my research I find it to be a scam .
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Feb 22, 11, 12:43PM
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Pheelyks: You are an asshole.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 12:58PM
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2Mock: You are a moron.
Gee, this is fun.
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Feb 22, 11, 02:37PM
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Its Rwanda Zarema. That is the only mistake i have noted in your essay. Did the company confirm to you that they went through your essay?Well, i am at a loss to understand why they did not give you the job if they indeed read the essay. Its soooooooooooooooooooo nycccccccccccccccccc..........i love it.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Feb 22, 11, 02:40PM
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2MockingBird: Its Rwanda Zarema. That is the only mistake i have noted in your essay. Wow. Thanks for putting your complete ignorance on public record.
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Feb 22, 11, 02:42PM
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Zarema: Those trashing your writing skills are envious of your genius. I suspect that the company also considered it unwise to hire you as their low CPP does not match your rare talent. Why don't you send your application to CP or SNR.
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Feb 22, 11, 03:13PM
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Zandermus: The point of this thread was to judge that "interesting" essay in the first post, not "let's pick on Zandermus, because he/she seems vulnerable at this moment in time". I think that it's really more like "let's pick on Zandermus because he's trying to sound competent by picking on another poster who has substandard writing skills despite having substandard writing skills of his own."
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 04:29PM
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2MockingBird: Why don't you send your application to CP or SNR. Yeah, give that a shot. Maybe three rejections in a row will clue you in.
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Feb 22, 11, 06:10PM
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news flash: no matter how good your grammar or spelling are, you're a term paper writer. you scrape by helping kids cheat their way through school, and you get zero respect for it. so, you think you're going to get respect as a writer by correcting strangers' grammar on the internet? really? that's some chip on your shoulder.
you want respect? how about an award? this award goes to essaypit.scam's resident sub-human millionaire and grammar expert, pheelyks. kudos, pheelyks. your reward is a gilt turd with a blank plaque.
now, please stop taunting expressive handicapped people who speak more languages than you do. it's not Zandermus' fault that your parents didn't treat you the basics of being a human being, you asshole.
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 06:23PM
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According to the latest statistics, I'm in the top 25% of earners in the US, but we've been through this before.
editor75: you get zero respect for it
editor75: you think you're going to get respect as a writer by correcting strangers' grammar on the internet I get all of the respect I need from more fulfilling aspects of my life. This forum is about business, and the level of writing people are capable of is directly relevant to this business--it is the commodity supplied in this industry.
editor75: you want respect Where did I bring up respect, or say that I desired it from others here?
I commented on Zandermus' language use only after he saw fit to step in and comment on someone else's--that's not taunting. Making up silly awards as a means of trying insult people is actually a much more obvious attempt to taunt, but you've already proven yourself entirely incapable of rational and adult conversations, so...
editor75: handicapped people who speak more languages than you do I have already applauded Zadermus' multilingualism, and as for his handicap not only was I not aware of it when I commented, but it doesn't change anything. I understand it creates certain difficulties and likely explains some of the unusual punctuation in his posts, assuming the programs he uses put these in without him noticing, but this doesn't change the fact that he expresses himself in stilted language with some odd word choices. He is clearly not mentally handicapped--something I cannot say with the same certainty for you--he just doesn't speak (or write) English that well.
Well you've certainly made your point now.
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Feb 22, 11, 08:42PM
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Pheelyks: (1). I am also fluent in three languages, what is your comment? (2). In a scale of ten, how would you rate my sanity? (3). I am not a writer but a hunter, what is your response to that? P.S WB can also freely comment
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 22, 11, 09:10PM
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2MockingBird: (1). I am also fluent in three languages, what is your comment? Good for you. That still doesn't mean your English is up to collegiate standards.
2MockingBird: In a scale of ten, how would you rate my sanity? You rate things on scales, not in them, and I do not consider myself qualified to render an assessment of your sanity, especially from your obviously self-serving posts on an Internet forum.
2MockingBird: I am not a writer but a hunter, what is your response to that? I have no idea if you're being literal or trying to be figurative, and if the latter i have no idea what you're talking about. That is my response to that.2MockingBird: P.S WB can also freely comment I'm sure she's grateful for your permission here on this publicly accessible and viewable Internet forum.
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